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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1076

    WSJ:

    Blaming Israel for Rescuing Its People

    Hamas hid four hostages in a crowded civilian area and fired on rescuers.

    The Editorial BoardJune 9, 2024 at 2:43 pm

    It’s rare good news in a grinding war. On Saturday Israeli commandos rescued four hostages from two civilian buildings near the heart of Gaza’s Nuseirat market. It was a high-risk but well-planned and -executed mission that is a morale boost for Israelis.

    Noa Argamani, age 26, Almog Meir Jan, 21, Andrey Kozlov, 27, and Shlomi Ziv, 40, were all abducted during the music-festival massacre. A video showed Ms. Argamani begging for her life. Eight months later she heard a knock on the door: “It’s the IDF, we’ve come to rescue you.” She can now visit her terminally ill mother. Mr. Jan was mobbed on his return by friends chanting, “He is one of us, and we will never give him up,” a refrain of sports teammates now given new meaning. Mr. Jan’s father died hours before his son’s return.

    The non-surprise is that professional anti-Israel voices, United Nations officials and the European Union foreign-policy chief rushed to attack Israel. Egypt condemned the operation “in the strongest terms.” How dare Israel rescue its own citizens. Didn’t it know there would be casualties? The BBC asked whether Israel gave a warning that the rescue raid was coming. Seriously? A tip-off to terrorists? Perhaps read them Miranda rights too.

    “BREAKING: Gaza’s Health Ministry says 274 Palestinians were killed during the Israeli operation,” reports the Associated Press, only 48 hours after it had exposed how the Hamas ministry’s daily death tolls are “at odds with underlying data.” When will the media stop taking the kidnappers at their word?

    Haters of Israel will blame it and excuse Hamas every time, and the media are easily manipulated into playing along. The Hamas figure is likely inflated, and it includes the terrorists killed trying to stop the rescue as well as those who hid the hostages.

    Hamas started the war with a massacre, took these hostages and hid them in a crowded civilian area. Then, when Israel came to free them, Hamas responded with heavy fire, including RPGs—yet people are condemning Israel. It makes us wonder if the West has lost the moral discernment and instinct for self-preservation needed to defend itself in a world of killers. Hamas could not survive if not for its enablers around the world.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

    MikM 1 Reply Last reply
    • JollyJ Offline
      JollyJ Offline
      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #1077

      We have stumbled into idiotville.

      I've said it before, I'm an OT kind of guy. Until quite recently, siege warfare used starvation as a military tactic. Shame the Israelis couldn't have cut off all food and water until EVERY hostage's status was accounted for, live or dead. The Palestinians could have ratted out Hamas or the whole bunch could suffer.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
        LuFins DadL Offline
        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #1078

        Heard a great one liner this morning -

        “Palestine is more trans-friendly than we thought. All the men the Israelis killed yesterday turned into women by this morning.”

        The Brad

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
          jon-nycJ Offline
          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #1079

          Maybe too little too late but interesting all the same.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • George KG Offline
            George KG Offline
            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #1080

            You get the government you elected.

            The dildo of electoral consequences rarely arrives lubed.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
              jon-nycJ Offline
              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #1081

              Sometimes you get the government your parents and grandparents voted for. Probably no one in that photo was old enough to vote in 2007.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • George KG Offline
                George KG Offline
                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #1082

                Fair point. Have there been elections since 2007 (too lazy to look)?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
                  jon-nycJ Offline
                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1083

                  No. In Arab countries there’s only ever one.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
                    jon-nycJ Offline
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1084

                    Helmet cam footage of hostage rescue.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                    taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Helmet cam footage of hostage rescue.

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
                      taiwan_girlT Offline
                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1085

                      @jon-nyc Wow!!! Quite intense!!!

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                      • George KG Offline
                        George KG Offline
                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1086

                        Gaza civilian deaths in Israel's hostage raid may be war crimes, UN says

                        The U.N. human rights office said on Tuesday the killings of civilians in Gaza during the Israeli operation to free four hostages, as well as Palestinian armed groups' holding of captives in densely populated areas, could amount to war crimes.

                        Israel said the operation, accompanied by an air assault, took place on Saturday in the heart of a residential neighbourhood in central Gaza's Nuseirat area where Hamas had kept the hostages in two separate apartment blocks.

                        The operation killed more than 270 Palestinians, according to Gazan health officials.

                        "The manner in which the raid was conducted in such a densely populated area seriously calls into question whether the principles of distinction, proportionality and precaution - as set out under the laws of war - were respected by the Israeli forces," Jeremy Laurence, spokesperson for the U.N. human rights office, said.

                        Laurence added that the holding of hostages in such densely populated areas by Palestinian armed groups was "putting the lives of Palestinian civilians, as well as the hostages themselves, at added risk from the hostilities."

                        "All these actions, by both parties, may amount to war crimes," he said.

                        Funny, no mention of war crimes such as rape, torture, DELIBERATE killing of civilians, including children 8 months ago. And a passing mention of keeping hostages in civilian locations.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • bachophileB Offline
                          bachophileB Offline
                          bachophile
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1087

                          The UN can kiss my butt

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                          • George KG Offline
                            George KG Offline
                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1088

                            Jesus Christ on a stick...

                            image.jpeg

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                            LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                            • CopperC Offline
                              CopperC Offline
                              Copper
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1089

                              Defund the UN.

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                              • George KG George K

                                WSJ:

                                Blaming Israel for Rescuing Its People

                                Hamas hid four hostages in a crowded civilian area and fired on rescuers.

                                The Editorial BoardJune 9, 2024 at 2:43 pm

                                It’s rare good news in a grinding war. On Saturday Israeli commandos rescued four hostages from two civilian buildings near the heart of Gaza’s Nuseirat market. It was a high-risk but well-planned and -executed mission that is a morale boost for Israelis.

                                Noa Argamani, age 26, Almog Meir Jan, 21, Andrey Kozlov, 27, and Shlomi Ziv, 40, were all abducted during the music-festival massacre. A video showed Ms. Argamani begging for her life. Eight months later she heard a knock on the door: “It’s the IDF, we’ve come to rescue you.” She can now visit her terminally ill mother. Mr. Jan was mobbed on his return by friends chanting, “He is one of us, and we will never give him up,” a refrain of sports teammates now given new meaning. Mr. Jan’s father died hours before his son’s return.

                                The non-surprise is that professional anti-Israel voices, United Nations officials and the European Union foreign-policy chief rushed to attack Israel. Egypt condemned the operation “in the strongest terms.” How dare Israel rescue its own citizens. Didn’t it know there would be casualties? The BBC asked whether Israel gave a warning that the rescue raid was coming. Seriously? A tip-off to terrorists? Perhaps read them Miranda rights too.

                                “BREAKING: Gaza’s Health Ministry says 274 Palestinians were killed during the Israeli operation,” reports the Associated Press, only 48 hours after it had exposed how the Hamas ministry’s daily death tolls are “at odds with underlying data.” When will the media stop taking the kidnappers at their word?

                                Haters of Israel will blame it and excuse Hamas every time, and the media are easily manipulated into playing along. The Hamas figure is likely inflated, and it includes the terrorists killed trying to stop the rescue as well as those who hid the hostages.

                                Hamas started the war with a massacre, took these hostages and hid them in a crowded civilian area. Then, when Israel came to free them, Hamas responded with heavy fire, including RPGs—yet people are condemning Israel. It makes us wonder if the West has lost the moral discernment and instinct for self-preservation needed to defend itself in a world of killers. Hamas could not survive if not for its enablers around the world.

                                MikM Offline
                                MikM Offline
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1090

                                @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                It makes us wonder if the West has lost the moral discernment and instinct for self-preservation needed to defend itself in a world of killers. Hamas could not survive if not for its enablers around the world.

                                That's the headline, right there.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • George KG George K

                                  Jesus Christ on a stick...

                                  image.jpeg

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1091

                                  @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                  Jesus Christ on a stick...

                                  image.jpeg

                                  No, technically it was the Romans that did that. And even then, it was ultimately God’s Will and any nation or people would have done the same.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1092

                                    https://babylonbee.com/news/heres-how-12-different-news-outlets-covered-israels-hostage-rescue

                                    Everyone knows that the media is either fake and biased or completely 100% factual and correct, depending on how your political orientation lines up with any given news source.

                                    With that in mind, The Babylon Bee conducted an investigation into how different media outlets covered Israel's hostage rescue operation:

                                    The Babylon Bee: Breaking: Gaza Health Ministry Confirms 8 Billion Dead In Israeli Hostage Rescue

                                    New York Times: Breaking: Gaza Health Ministry Confirms 8 Billion Dead In Israeli Hostage Rescue

                                    CNN: GENOCIDE: Israel Mass Murders More Palestinian Citizens Also Please Pay Attention To Us We're Broke

                                    Rolling Stone: Palestinians Recount Horror Of Living With 4 Jews For 247 Days

                                    NotTheBee: Israel Just Pulled Off One Of The Most EPIC Rescues In History And Libz Are Big Mad. Let Me Break It Down For You. 🤣🤣🤣

                                    BBC News: Israel Genocidally Commits Genocide By Shooting Back At Innocent Civilian People Shooting At Them In Horrible Genocide

                                    Buzzfeed: Check Out These 32 Recipes From Child-Free Trans Women That You Need In Your Life

                                    Deadspin: Here's a Video of a Racist Israeli Hostage in Blackface Oh Wait Those Are Ashes From His Friend's Incinerated Body And Oops We Just Lost Another $500 Million Defamation Lawsuit

                                    Washington Post: Hi, I'm Raul, The Janitor, Nobody Here Today

                                    HuffPost: Israel Brutally Murders Civilians Innocently Holding AK-47s, Hostages

                                    TMZ: POOLSIDE PICS! You'll Never Believe How These Seven Celebs Responded to Israel's Slaughter of Innocent Palestinians

                                    Al Jazeera: Wait! Don't Shoot! I Can Exp —

                                    The Brad

                                    MikM 1 Reply Last reply
                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      https://babylonbee.com/news/heres-how-12-different-news-outlets-covered-israels-hostage-rescue

                                      Everyone knows that the media is either fake and biased or completely 100% factual and correct, depending on how your political orientation lines up with any given news source.

                                      With that in mind, The Babylon Bee conducted an investigation into how different media outlets covered Israel's hostage rescue operation:

                                      The Babylon Bee: Breaking: Gaza Health Ministry Confirms 8 Billion Dead In Israeli Hostage Rescue

                                      New York Times: Breaking: Gaza Health Ministry Confirms 8 Billion Dead In Israeli Hostage Rescue

                                      CNN: GENOCIDE: Israel Mass Murders More Palestinian Citizens Also Please Pay Attention To Us We're Broke

                                      Rolling Stone: Palestinians Recount Horror Of Living With 4 Jews For 247 Days

                                      NotTheBee: Israel Just Pulled Off One Of The Most EPIC Rescues In History And Libz Are Big Mad. Let Me Break It Down For You. 🤣🤣🤣

                                      BBC News: Israel Genocidally Commits Genocide By Shooting Back At Innocent Civilian People Shooting At Them In Horrible Genocide

                                      Buzzfeed: Check Out These 32 Recipes From Child-Free Trans Women That You Need In Your Life

                                      Deadspin: Here's a Video of a Racist Israeli Hostage in Blackface Oh Wait Those Are Ashes From His Friend's Incinerated Body And Oops We Just Lost Another $500 Million Defamation Lawsuit

                                      Washington Post: Hi, I'm Raul, The Janitor, Nobody Here Today

                                      HuffPost: Israel Brutally Murders Civilians Innocently Holding AK-47s, Hostages

                                      TMZ: POOLSIDE PICS! You'll Never Believe How These Seven Celebs Responded to Israel's Slaughter of Innocent Palestinians

                                      Al Jazeera: Wait! Don't Shoot! I Can Exp —

                                      MikM Offline
                                      MikM Offline
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1093

                                      @LuFins-Dad Raul 😆😆😉😆😆

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        @LuFins-Dad Raul 😆😆😉😆😆

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1094

                                        @Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        @LuFins-Dad Raul 😆😆😉😆😆

                                        I liked the Rolling Stone headline.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          Civilians, they say. Perhaps they were but all the same, a just end to Hamas collaborators. Sorry to hear that Hamas again used children as human shields. But as the saying goes, when you chop wood, chips fly.

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1095

                                          @Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                          Civilians, they say. Perhaps they were but all the same, a just end to Hamas collaborators.

                                          GQDXotjXIAA2YbD.jpeg

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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