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  • LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #1073

    I really wish I hadn’t listened to that. I was having a really good day up until then.

    The Brad

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    • RenaudaR Renauda

      @Mik

      Some? Am sure all the adult males and the vast majority of adult women were in the know.

      CopperC Offline
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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #1074

      @Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:

      @Mik

      Some? Am sure all the adult males and the vast majority of adult women were in the know.

      And certainly all the Ivy League students.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #1075

        Benny Gantz has resigned. Is this a thing?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
          George KG Offline
          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #1076

          WSJ:

          Blaming Israel for Rescuing Its People

          Hamas hid four hostages in a crowded civilian area and fired on rescuers.

          The Editorial BoardJune 9, 2024 at 2:43 pm

          It’s rare good news in a grinding war. On Saturday Israeli commandos rescued four hostages from two civilian buildings near the heart of Gaza’s Nuseirat market. It was a high-risk but well-planned and -executed mission that is a morale boost for Israelis.

          Noa Argamani, age 26, Almog Meir Jan, 21, Andrey Kozlov, 27, and Shlomi Ziv, 40, were all abducted during the music-festival massacre. A video showed Ms. Argamani begging for her life. Eight months later she heard a knock on the door: “It’s the IDF, we’ve come to rescue you.” She can now visit her terminally ill mother. Mr. Jan was mobbed on his return by friends chanting, “He is one of us, and we will never give him up,” a refrain of sports teammates now given new meaning. Mr. Jan’s father died hours before his son’s return.

          The non-surprise is that professional anti-Israel voices, United Nations officials and the European Union foreign-policy chief rushed to attack Israel. Egypt condemned the operation “in the strongest terms.” How dare Israel rescue its own citizens. Didn’t it know there would be casualties? The BBC asked whether Israel gave a warning that the rescue raid was coming. Seriously? A tip-off to terrorists? Perhaps read them Miranda rights too.

          “BREAKING: Gaza’s Health Ministry says 274 Palestinians were killed during the Israeli operation,” reports the Associated Press, only 48 hours after it had exposed how the Hamas ministry’s daily death tolls are “at odds with underlying data.” When will the media stop taking the kidnappers at their word?

          Haters of Israel will blame it and excuse Hamas every time, and the media are easily manipulated into playing along. The Hamas figure is likely inflated, and it includes the terrorists killed trying to stop the rescue as well as those who hid the hostages.

          Hamas started the war with a massacre, took these hostages and hid them in a crowded civilian area. Then, when Israel came to free them, Hamas responded with heavy fire, including RPGs—yet people are condemning Israel. It makes us wonder if the West has lost the moral discernment and instinct for self-preservation needed to defend itself in a world of killers. Hamas could not survive if not for its enablers around the world.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • JollyJ Offline
            JollyJ Offline
            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #1077

            We have stumbled into idiotville.

            I've said it before, I'm an OT kind of guy. Until quite recently, siege warfare used starvation as a military tactic. Shame the Israelis couldn't have cut off all food and water until EVERY hostage's status was accounted for, live or dead. The Palestinians could have ratted out Hamas or the whole bunch could suffer.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
              LuFins DadL Offline
              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #1078

              Heard a great one liner this morning -

              “Palestine is more trans-friendly than we thought. All the men the Israelis killed yesterday turned into women by this morning.”

              The Brad

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
                jon-nycJ Offline
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #1079

                Maybe too little too late but interesting all the same.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • George KG Offline
                  George KG Offline
                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1080

                  You get the government you elected.

                  The dildo of electoral consequences rarely arrives lubed.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
                    jon-nycJ Offline
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1081

                    Sometimes you get the government your parents and grandparents voted for. Probably no one in that photo was old enough to vote in 2007.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1082

                      Fair point. Have there been elections since 2007 (too lazy to look)?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
                        jon-nycJ Offline
                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1083

                        No. In Arab countries there’s only ever one.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
                          jon-nycJ Offline
                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1084

                          Helmet cam footage of hostage rescue.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Helmet cam footage of hostage rescue.

                            taiwan_girlT Offline
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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1085

                            @jon-nyc Wow!!! Quite intense!!!

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                            • George KG Offline
                              George KG Offline
                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1086

                              Gaza civilian deaths in Israel's hostage raid may be war crimes, UN says

                              The U.N. human rights office said on Tuesday the killings of civilians in Gaza during the Israeli operation to free four hostages, as well as Palestinian armed groups' holding of captives in densely populated areas, could amount to war crimes.

                              Israel said the operation, accompanied by an air assault, took place on Saturday in the heart of a residential neighbourhood in central Gaza's Nuseirat area where Hamas had kept the hostages in two separate apartment blocks.

                              The operation killed more than 270 Palestinians, according to Gazan health officials.

                              "The manner in which the raid was conducted in such a densely populated area seriously calls into question whether the principles of distinction, proportionality and precaution - as set out under the laws of war - were respected by the Israeli forces," Jeremy Laurence, spokesperson for the U.N. human rights office, said.

                              Laurence added that the holding of hostages in such densely populated areas by Palestinian armed groups was "putting the lives of Palestinian civilians, as well as the hostages themselves, at added risk from the hostilities."

                              "All these actions, by both parties, may amount to war crimes," he said.

                              Funny, no mention of war crimes such as rape, torture, DELIBERATE killing of civilians, including children 8 months ago. And a passing mention of keeping hostages in civilian locations.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • bachophileB Offline
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                                bachophile
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1087

                                The UN can kiss my butt

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                                • George KG Offline
                                  George KG Offline
                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1088

                                  Jesus Christ on a stick...

                                  image.jpeg

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                  LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                                  • CopperC Offline
                                    CopperC Offline
                                    Copper
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1089

                                    Defund the UN.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      WSJ:

                                      Blaming Israel for Rescuing Its People

                                      Hamas hid four hostages in a crowded civilian area and fired on rescuers.

                                      The Editorial BoardJune 9, 2024 at 2:43 pm

                                      It’s rare good news in a grinding war. On Saturday Israeli commandos rescued four hostages from two civilian buildings near the heart of Gaza’s Nuseirat market. It was a high-risk but well-planned and -executed mission that is a morale boost for Israelis.

                                      Noa Argamani, age 26, Almog Meir Jan, 21, Andrey Kozlov, 27, and Shlomi Ziv, 40, were all abducted during the music-festival massacre. A video showed Ms. Argamani begging for her life. Eight months later she heard a knock on the door: “It’s the IDF, we’ve come to rescue you.” She can now visit her terminally ill mother. Mr. Jan was mobbed on his return by friends chanting, “He is one of us, and we will never give him up,” a refrain of sports teammates now given new meaning. Mr. Jan’s father died hours before his son’s return.

                                      The non-surprise is that professional anti-Israel voices, United Nations officials and the European Union foreign-policy chief rushed to attack Israel. Egypt condemned the operation “in the strongest terms.” How dare Israel rescue its own citizens. Didn’t it know there would be casualties? The BBC asked whether Israel gave a warning that the rescue raid was coming. Seriously? A tip-off to terrorists? Perhaps read them Miranda rights too.

                                      “BREAKING: Gaza’s Health Ministry says 274 Palestinians were killed during the Israeli operation,” reports the Associated Press, only 48 hours after it had exposed how the Hamas ministry’s daily death tolls are “at odds with underlying data.” When will the media stop taking the kidnappers at their word?

                                      Haters of Israel will blame it and excuse Hamas every time, and the media are easily manipulated into playing along. The Hamas figure is likely inflated, and it includes the terrorists killed trying to stop the rescue as well as those who hid the hostages.

                                      Hamas started the war with a massacre, took these hostages and hid them in a crowded civilian area. Then, when Israel came to free them, Hamas responded with heavy fire, including RPGs—yet people are condemning Israel. It makes us wonder if the West has lost the moral discernment and instinct for self-preservation needed to defend itself in a world of killers. Hamas could not survive if not for its enablers around the world.

                                      MikM Offline
                                      MikM Offline
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1090

                                      @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                      It makes us wonder if the West has lost the moral discernment and instinct for self-preservation needed to defend itself in a world of killers. Hamas could not survive if not for its enablers around the world.

                                      That's the headline, right there.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Jesus Christ on a stick...

                                        image.jpeg

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1091

                                        @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        Jesus Christ on a stick...

                                        image.jpeg

                                        No, technically it was the Romans that did that. And even then, it was ultimately God’s Will and any nation or people would have done the same.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL Offline
                                          LuFins DadL Offline
                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1092

                                          https://babylonbee.com/news/heres-how-12-different-news-outlets-covered-israels-hostage-rescue

                                          Everyone knows that the media is either fake and biased or completely 100% factual and correct, depending on how your political orientation lines up with any given news source.

                                          With that in mind, The Babylon Bee conducted an investigation into how different media outlets covered Israel's hostage rescue operation:

                                          The Babylon Bee: Breaking: Gaza Health Ministry Confirms 8 Billion Dead In Israeli Hostage Rescue

                                          New York Times: Breaking: Gaza Health Ministry Confirms 8 Billion Dead In Israeli Hostage Rescue

                                          CNN: GENOCIDE: Israel Mass Murders More Palestinian Citizens Also Please Pay Attention To Us We're Broke

                                          Rolling Stone: Palestinians Recount Horror Of Living With 4 Jews For 247 Days

                                          NotTheBee: Israel Just Pulled Off One Of The Most EPIC Rescues In History And Libz Are Big Mad. Let Me Break It Down For You. 🤣🤣🤣

                                          BBC News: Israel Genocidally Commits Genocide By Shooting Back At Innocent Civilian People Shooting At Them In Horrible Genocide

                                          Buzzfeed: Check Out These 32 Recipes From Child-Free Trans Women That You Need In Your Life

                                          Deadspin: Here's a Video of a Racist Israeli Hostage in Blackface Oh Wait Those Are Ashes From His Friend's Incinerated Body And Oops We Just Lost Another $500 Million Defamation Lawsuit

                                          Washington Post: Hi, I'm Raul, The Janitor, Nobody Here Today

                                          HuffPost: Israel Brutally Murders Civilians Innocently Holding AK-47s, Hostages

                                          TMZ: POOLSIDE PICS! You'll Never Believe How These Seven Celebs Responded to Israel's Slaughter of Innocent Palestinians

                                          Al Jazeera: Wait! Don't Shoot! I Can Exp —

                                          The Brad

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