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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #991

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      Israel is the same as Hamas, says The United States.

      https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/blinken-warns-israel-risks-becoming-indistinguishable-from-hamas-if-it-doesnt-protect-gaza-civilians/

      US Secretary of State Antony Blinken warns that Israel risks becoming indistinguishable from Hamas if it continues to fail to protect civilians amid the Gaza war.

      “What happened after October 7 could have ended immediately if Hamas had stopped hiding behind civilians, released the hostages and put down its weapons, but Israel is not Hamas. Israel is a democracy; Hamas, a terrorist organization. Democracies place the highest value on human life, every human life. As it has been said, whoever saves a life, saves the entire world,” Blinken says during a press conference in Brussels, quoting a Jewish proverb.

      “That’s our strength. It’s what distinguishes us from terrorists like Hamas. If we lose that reverence for human life, we risk becoming indistinguishable from those we confront.”

      “Right now, there is no higher priority in Gaza than protecting civilians, surging humanitarian assistance, and ensuring the security of those who provide it. Israel must meet this moment,” Blinken said.

      He notes “important steps” Israel has taken to allow aid into Gaza, but clarifies that “the results on the ground are woefully insufficient and unacceptable,” with 100 percent of Gazans facing acute insecurity.

      “This week’s horrific attack on the World Central Kitchen was not the first such incident. It must be the last,” the top US diplomat warns.

      Shall we talk about the Afghan civilians that were killed by a US missile under your administration, Mr. Secretary?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        Israel is the same as Hamas, says The United States.

        https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/blinken-warns-israel-risks-becoming-indistinguishable-from-hamas-if-it-doesnt-protect-gaza-civilians/

        US Secretary of State Antony Blinken warns that Israel risks becoming indistinguishable from Hamas if it continues to fail to protect civilians amid the Gaza war.

        “What happened after October 7 could have ended immediately if Hamas had stopped hiding behind civilians, released the hostages and put down its weapons, but Israel is not Hamas. Israel is a democracy; Hamas, a terrorist organization. Democracies place the highest value on human life, every human life. As it has been said, whoever saves a life, saves the entire world,” Blinken says during a press conference in Brussels, quoting a Jewish proverb.

        “That’s our strength. It’s what distinguishes us from terrorists like Hamas. If we lose that reverence for human life, we risk becoming indistinguishable from those we confront.”

        “Right now, there is no higher priority in Gaza than protecting civilians, surging humanitarian assistance, and ensuring the security of those who provide it. Israel must meet this moment,” Blinken said.

        He notes “important steps” Israel has taken to allow aid into Gaza, but clarifies that “the results on the ground are woefully insufficient and unacceptable,” with 100 percent of Gazans facing acute insecurity.

        “This week’s horrific attack on the World Central Kitchen was not the first such incident. It must be the last,” the top US diplomat warns.

        Shall we talk about the Afghan civilians that were killed by a US missile under your administration, Mr. Secretary?

        jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

        Israel is the same as Hamas, says The United States.

        He literally said the opposite of that.

        “… but Israel is not Hamas. Israel is a democracy;”

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #994

          Well what I meant is that he said something similar to it.

          Israel risks becoming indistinguishable from Hamas if it continues to fail to protect civilians amid the Gaza war.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #995

            “risks”

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
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              #996

              Rhetoric to allow the Biden admin to keep riding the fence.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Offline
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                Nothing about bombing the Iranian consulate in Damascus?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  When multiple international aid organizations actively support and act as cover for Hamas, bad crap is bound to happen, even to legitimate aid organizations.

                  The Brad

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Nothing about bombing the Iranian consulate in Damascus?

                    RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
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                    @Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                    Nothing about bombing the Iranian consulate in Damascus?

                    I can’t see any need for comment. Iranian Revolutionary Guard was using the Consulate’s diplomatic cover as a planning and command centre for Hezbollah attacks on Israel and Israeli assets. Legitimate military target.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #1000

                      Brand Hamas as January 6 terrorists.

                      Biden will be raining ordnance on them in a heartbeat.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
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                        The Telegraph gets it right.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/britain-has-turned-against-israel-it-s-an-unforgivable-betrayal/ar-BB1laUAF?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=adba3ac4642b407c9be2cef93c70924b&ei=33

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          The Return of Moral Equivalence

                          https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/04/the-return-of-moral-equivalence/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=second

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            I listened to a description last night about the IDF's attack on the aid convoy last week. Hamas set the IDF up by intermingling Hamas assets with the convoy at times. Even went so far as to have a terrorist climb on top of a vehicle and shoot his weapon, to draw attention.

                            The IDF took the bait and Hamas reaped the publicity rewards.

                            One side in this conflict has rules, the other does not. The Resident is supporting the terrorists.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1004

                              Joe Rogan on genocide.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
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                                It's an important idea. The strategy cannot be allowed to succeed.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  I listened to a description last night about the IDF's attack on the aid convoy last week. Hamas set the IDF up by intermingling Hamas assets with the convoy at times. Even went so far as to have a terrorist climb on top of a vehicle and shoot his weapon, to draw attention.

                                  The IDF took the bait and Hamas reaped the publicity rewards.

                                  One side in this conflict has rules, the other does not. The Resident is supporting the terrorists.

                                  RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
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                                  #1006

                                  @Jolly

                                  I listened to a description last night about the IDF's attack on the aid convoy last week. Hamas set the IDF up by intermingling Hamas assets with the convoy at times. Even went so far as to have a terrorist climb on top of a vehicle and shoot his weapon, to draw attention.

                                  The description you listened to does not correspond to what the IDF itself has been saying about the aid convoy strike. It admits to a breakdown in internal communication that led to misidentification the incident. I therefore do not believe what you listened to is accurate.

                                  I normally don’t put much weight on Sky News reporting but this clip goes into sufficient detail and explanation to convince me at least of misidentification:

                                  Link to video

                                  As for current “Resident” supporting Hamas terrorists I also do not believe that to be the case. To facts would suggest quite the opposite.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Biden's got splinters in his ass from trying to ride that fence.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      He’s trying to be pro-Israel and anti-Bibi. It’s a very easy position to hold and is a view shared by many (most?) Israelis.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        Renauda
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                                        @ Mik

                                        Whether he’s riding a fence or walking a tight rope is not the issue. The issue is whether after six months, Netanyahu’s continued scorched earth policy regarding Gaza is producing the desired results of getting the hostages back and either forcing Hamas and Islamic Jihad to lay down their arms or liquidating them altogether. The first priority being the return of the hostages. Neither objective seems to have been achieved plus Gaza now looks like Mariupol and Netanyahu and Likud are losing support for their policies from inside Israel itself.

                                        Edit: Jon said it better than I.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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