Millions for Ukraine

[Jolly]

@Renauda said in Millions for Ukraine:

@Jolly

I noticed it and agree with what you wrote.
Short of setting up a no fly zone - which I contend remains impracticable and ill advised at this point - I believe the West has made a strategic error in not supplying aircraft. Have always thought the argument that supply of more sophisticated weaponry and air power would force the Russians to escalate was a straw man and cop out. Escalate what and how?

On the other hand, it takes time to train even experienced pilots on aircraft like F-16 and what Ukraine will receive may well be too little, too late.

NATO has already tried some of Ukraine's better pilots on the F-16. 90 days, and they're ready to fly missions. That's not the bulk of pilots. I suspect the average ones will take longer. The first F-16's will be coming from Denmark and the Netherlands, and should be operational in theater by the first of the year. More will follow.

I don't think anything like air superiority will be achieved, especially since I don't think they'll be getting the latest F-16 radar mods, but if they get shoot and forget missiles, it gives them a big defensive boost in their own airspace.

[Axtremus]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/26/mike-johnson-us-mexico-border-ukraine-israel-aid-deal

Aid to Ukraine and Israel in doubt as House speaker says he won’t support deal
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A bargain in which southern border security would be beefed up in exchange for foreign aid is looking increasingly unlikely

House of Representatives Speaker Johnson says he will not support the deal that the Senate is working on concerning aids to Ukraine, Israel, and border security.

[jon-nyc]

Trump’s against a deal. He wants border chaos all year.

Dems should put up a clean border bill and troll them.

[Axtremus]

@jon-nyc said in Millions for Ukraine:

Trump’s against a deal. He wants border chaos all year.

Yeap. https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/260289

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Millions for Ukraine:

Trump’s against a deal. He wants border chaos all year.

Dems should put up a clean border bill and troll them.

Biden wants an open border.

[Jolly]

302,000 migrant encounters, December 2023.

That's encounters. How many snuck in and were not caught or did not report?

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in Millions for Ukraine:

@jon-nyc said in Millions for Ukraine:

Trump’s against a deal. He wants border chaos all year.

Dems should put up a clean border bill and troll them.

Biden Trump wants an open border.

FIFY.

[Jolly]

What are you going to believe, a hearsay report, or your lying eyes and the government's own figures? A government, I might add, whose current executive will underreport those numbers if at all possible.

[George K]

@Axtremus said in Millions for Ukraine:

Biden Trump wants an open border.

FIFY.

Look at what those nasty Republicans have done over the last three years!

https://jabberwocking.com/illegal-immigration-skyrockets-in-december/

As usual, about 50,000 of these were asylum seekers who made appointments via the mobile phone app, while the rest were apprehended trying to cross the border illegally.

One of the more interesting videos about the border was seen when POTATUS went for a photo-op visit to the border. The streets were clean, there were no encampments, and not one person was crossing the Rio Grande.

A local official commented - if they can stop it overnight for a visit by Biden, they can stop it overnight. And they don't. Ask yourself why.