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Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:23 last edited by
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    Gaetz called for the motion to vacate because McCarthy had recruited Dem votes for the Continuing Resolution. In order to vacate, Gaetz voted along with over 200 Democrats. That may not be irony, but it’s something…

    The Brad

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:26 last edited by
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      A dozen firebrands can run the Republican caucus but they can’t run the house. Where do they think this leads?

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        3 Oct 2023, 21:26

        A dozen firebrands can run the Republican caucus but they can’t run the house. Where do they think this leads?

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        George K
        wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:34 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

        A dozen firebrands can run the Republican caucus but they can’t run the house. Where do they think this leads?

        More skillfully described than my question.

        I assume this won't be on your bookshelf, right @jon-nyc ?

        Screenshot 2023-10-03 at 4.34.14 PM.png

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:39 last edited by
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          House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., said before the vote that Democrats "are ready to find bipartisan common ground. Our extreme colleagues have shown no willingness to do the same.

          And then he voted with the 11 extremists to vacate the moderate Speaker that was willing to compromise. There’s more of that non-irony again.

          The Brad

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            George K
            wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:45 last edited by
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            From the RWEC:

            "Who was it who said of the Palestinians that they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity? You could say the same of the Republican Party. Then there is the adage, attributed to Napoleon, that you should never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake. The Republicans violated that one today, too...

            Once again, Republicans with no plan and no strategy for success have given the Democrats a badly-needed win."

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:48 last edited by Renauda 10 Mar 2023, 21:49
              #29

              Why didn’t the House Donkeycrats just abstain from voting? I can understand them not wanting to get involved but voting with the reactionary rump of the Republicans is, in my view, unconscionable.

              Elbows up!

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:56 last edited by Axtremus 10 Mar 2023, 22:27
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                Because the Democrats think that this open up a chance, tiny as it may be, for a Democrat to be elected Speaker?

                Because the Democrats hold grudges, justified or not, for whatever problems McCarthy gave them whilst Speaker?

                Because the Democrats believe they will have more leverage to negotiate a better with whoever running for Speakership from the Republican side?

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                • G George K
                  3 Oct 2023, 21:34

                  @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                  A dozen firebrands can run the Republican caucus but they can’t run the house. Where do they think this leads?

                  More skillfully described than my question.

                  I assume this won't be on your bookshelf, right @jon-nyc ?

                  Screenshot 2023-10-03 at 4.34.14 PM.png

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 22:20 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                  @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                  A dozen firebrands can run the Republican caucus but they can’t run the house. Where do they think this leads?

                  More skillfully described than my question.

                  But yours is more to the point.

                  I assume this won't be on your bookshelf, right @jon-nyc ?

                  Not unless there’s another toilet paper shortage.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • J Jolly
                    1 Oct 2023, 19:48
                    1. No
                    2. N/A
                    3. Mickey Mouse
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 22:24 last edited by Renauda 10 Mar 2023, 23:03
                    #32

                    Ax asked the following:

                    1. Will McCarthy be vacated from Speakership?

                    2. If so, who do you think will be the next Speaker of the House?

                    3. (Whom would like to see as the Speaker of the House of not McCarthy?)

                    Jolly responded:

                    1. No
                    2. N/A
                    3. Mickey Mouse

                    @Jolly

                    So you think Mickey has a chance now?

                    Elbows up!

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                      George K
                      wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 22:46 last edited by George K 10 Mar 2023, 22:46
                      #33

                      So, now what?

                      Will the GOP vote in favor of anyone whom the Democrats propose? Of course not.

                      Who has enough, for lack of a better word, "juice" in the GOP to win a vote? And if there is such a person, how many times will he have to give Gaetz a blowjob will he compromise to keep the speakership?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 22:49 last edited by
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                        It's really interesting to see the reactions from the RWEC.

                        "Thus, the so-called Freedom Caucus — which didn’t say much when Donald Trump spent like Barack Obama — claimed McCarthy made them promises he didn’t keep and insisted that something must be done. …"

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 23:09 last edited by
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                          McCarthy says he won't run for speaker again.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 23:13 last edited by Renauda 10 Mar 2023, 23:13
                            #36

                            @George-K

                            Who can blame him?

                            Elbows up!

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                            • G George K
                              3 Oct 2023, 20:47

                              Have to wonder: What is Gaetz's end game here?

                              More concessions? A run at speakership? Hakeem Jeffries as Speaker?

                              It reminds me of the dog that finally catches the car: "NOW what am I going to do with it?"

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 23:18 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                              It reminds me of the dog that finally catches the car: "NOW what am I going to do with it?"

                              Drive it across State lines for unspecified purposes, presumably.

                              I was only joking

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                              • G George K
                                3 Oct 2023, 23:09

                                McCarthy says he won't run for speaker again.

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 23:33 last edited by
                                #38

                                @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                McCarthy says he won't run for speaker again.

                                Who can blame him?
                                He seems to have wanted that job for a long time.
                                Now, not only he had the job, he also made history with it.
                                As the first Speaker of the House to be vacated.
                                Down the history books he goes.

                                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/kevin-mccarthy-says-wont-run-house-speaker-rcna118611

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                                • G George K
                                  3 Oct 2023, 22:49

                                  It's really interesting to see the reactions from the RWEC.

                                  "Thus, the so-called Freedom Caucus — which didn’t say much when Donald Trump spent like Barack Obama — claimed McCarthy made them promises he didn’t keep and insisted that something must be done. …"

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 23:49 last edited by Renauda 10 Apr 2023, 00:28
                                  #39

                                  @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                  It's really interesting to see the reactions from the RWEC.

                                  "Thus, the so-called Freedom Caucus — which didn’t say much when Donald Trump spent like Barack Obama — claimed McCarthy made them promises he didn’t keep and insisted that something must be done. …"

                                  It seems to me that the Freedom Caucus does not so much want its voice heard and taken into account but rather, insists that its voice and subsequent commands be obeyed without question.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 23:58 last edited by
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                                    McCarthy, appropriately bitter, commented that he's upset that 4% of his caucus controls who speaks for them.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 00:24 last edited by
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                                      Gaetz (FL-idiot) said he has no interest in being speaker.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 00:26 last edited by
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                                        Nice. They can't do a goddamn thing FOR A WEEK.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • R Renauda
                                          3 Oct 2023, 22:24

                                          Ax asked the following:

                                          1. Will McCarthy be vacated from Speakership?

                                          2. If so, who do you think will be the next Speaker of the House?

                                          3. (Whom would like to see as the Speaker of the House of not McCarthy?)

                                          Jolly responded:

                                          1. No
                                          2. N/A
                                          3. Mickey Mouse

                                          @Jolly

                                          So you think Mickey has a chance now?

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 00:32 last edited by
                                          #43

                                          @Renauda said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                          Ax asked the following:

                                          1. Will McCarthy be vacated from Speakership?

                                          2. If so, who do you think will be the next Speaker of the House?

                                          3. (Whom would like to see as the Speaker of the House of not McCarthy?)

                                          Jolly responded:

                                          1. No
                                          2. N/A
                                          3. Mickey Mouse

                                          @Jolly

                                          So you think Mickey has a chance now?

                                          About as good a shot as anybody.

                                          The GOP screwed the pooch on this one.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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