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Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?

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    Jolly
    wrote on 2 Oct 2023, 14:12 last edited by
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    No committees, no money for your district.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      2 Oct 2023, 14:12

      No committees, no money for your district.

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 2 Oct 2023, 14:51 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

      No committees, no money for your district.

      Then I suppose the end conclusion is that the voters would elect a new congressman.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 2 Oct 2023, 14:54 last edited by
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        Yep.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          George K
          wrote on 2 Oct 2023, 18:13 last edited by
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          "Matt Gaetz wants to punish Speaker McCarthy for daring to using Democratic votes to pass a CR .....by asking Democrats to provide the votes to remove the Speaker."

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 2 Oct 2023, 18:37 last edited by
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            McCarthy needs to ask himself the question, "What would Hitler do?"

            I was only joking

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 2 Oct 2023, 22:27 last edited by
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              https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/01/mccarthy-speakership-mercy-democrats-00119359

              McCarthy’s speakership now at the mercy of Dems

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                George K
                wrote on 2 Oct 2023, 22:31 last edited by
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                Trump could be Speaker....

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 2 Oct 2023, 23:27 last edited by
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                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/02/kevin-mccarthy-matt-gaetz/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

                  Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) introduced a resolution Monday evening to remove Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) from his seat, triggering an expected intraparty clash and setting up a showdown for the House to decide whether to depose McCarthy likely within 48 hours.
                  Keeping up with politics is easy with The 5-Minute Fix Newsletter, in your inbox weekdays.

                  Gaetz and a handful of hard-right Republicans have repeatedly threatened to go after McCarthy’s speakership if he relied on Democratic votes to pass any spending legislation, which happened Saturday after McCarthy could not get a majority of Republicans to support various proposals to fund the government with only GOP votes.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • G George K
                    2 Oct 2023, 22:31

                    Trump could be Speaker....

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 00:41 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    Trump could be Speaker....

                    Somewhere, in a parallel universe, this is undoubtedly happening right now. What I doubt about the many worlds theory is that there's one where he shuts up.

                    I was only joking

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                      3 Oct 2023, 00:41

                      @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                      Trump could be Speaker....

                      Somewhere, in a parallel universe, this is undoubtedly happening right now. What I doubt about the many worlds theory is that there's one where he shuts up.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 00:48 last edited by
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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                      Somewhere, in a parallel universe, this is undoubtedly happening right now. What I doubt about the many worlds theory is that there's one where he shuts up.

                      Now THAT'S funny.

                      Fortunately, I had just poured some (moderately-priced) Scotch and my keyboard is safe.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 16:23 last edited by
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                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/03/kevin-mccarthy-house-speaker-vote-motion-to-vacate/

                        Looks like the Dems will not step in to "save" McCarthy. It will be up to the Republicans to decide whether they want McCarthy to continue as Speaker.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 20:47 last edited by
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                          Have to wonder: What is Gaetz's end game here?

                          More concessions? A run at speakership? Hakeem Jeffries as Speaker?

                          It reminds me of the dog that finally catches the car: "NOW what am I going to do with it?"

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 20:52 last edited by
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                            And, he's out.

                            Now what, you morons?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:23 last edited by
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                              Gaetz called for the motion to vacate because McCarthy had recruited Dem votes for the Continuing Resolution. In order to vacate, Gaetz voted along with over 200 Democrats. That may not be irony, but it’s something…

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:26 last edited by
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                                A dozen firebrands can run the Republican caucus but they can’t run the house. Where do they think this leads?

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  3 Oct 2023, 21:26

                                  A dozen firebrands can run the Republican caucus but they can’t run the house. Where do they think this leads?

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:34 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                  A dozen firebrands can run the Republican caucus but they can’t run the house. Where do they think this leads?

                                  More skillfully described than my question.

                                  I assume this won't be on your bookshelf, right @jon-nyc ?

                                  Screenshot 2023-10-03 at 4.34.14 PM.png

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:39 last edited by
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                                    House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., said before the vote that Democrats "are ready to find bipartisan common ground. Our extreme colleagues have shown no willingness to do the same.

                                    And then he voted with the 11 extremists to vacate the moderate Speaker that was willing to compromise. There’s more of that non-irony again.

                                    The Brad

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:45 last edited by
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                                      From the RWEC:

                                      "Who was it who said of the Palestinians that they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity? You could say the same of the Republican Party. Then there is the adage, attributed to Napoleon, that you should never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake. The Republicans violated that one today, too...

                                      Once again, Republicans with no plan and no strategy for success have given the Democrats a badly-needed win."

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:48 last edited by Renauda 10 Mar 2023, 21:49
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                                        Why didn’t the House Donkeycrats just abstain from voting? I can understand them not wanting to get involved but voting with the reactionary rump of the Republicans is, in my view, unconscionable.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:56 last edited by Axtremus 10 Mar 2023, 22:27
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                                          Because the Democrats think that this open up a chance, tiny as it may be, for a Democrat to be elected Speaker?

                                          Because the Democrats hold grudges, justified or not, for whatever problems McCarthy gave them whilst Speaker?

                                          Because the Democrats believe they will have more leverage to negotiate a better with whoever running for Speakership from the Republican side?

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