Hallucinogens

[Jolly]

She's taking them. Democratization in education? Don't make me laugh...

https://www.popsci.com/story/technology/remote-education-school-systems/

[Copper]

It's not the money or the location.

It's the parents at home making sure the child does the work and learns.

[Jolly]

Let's take Jon as an example...I don't know what kind of money Jon has. I don't care. But I do know that he's not worried about being able to buy groceries next month or pay his electric bill.I also know he has a young son, that he loves and wants the best for him.

Does anybody not think that Jon will not obtain the best possible education for his son? Classroom or virtual?

Now, compare what Jon can provide for his son versus what some single mom in a lower middle class New Jersey neighborhood can do. Now, compare those to some kid of the same age, in the Philly projects. Or a kid living on MLK Boulevard in New Orleans.

Even virtually, do you think they are all receiving the same quality of education?

[Aqua Letifer]

@Jolly said in Hallucinogens:

Even virtually, do you think they are all receiving the same quality of education?

Getting abstract here: take the virus out of the scenario. And consider we had 10 or so years to mess around with this.

• Do you still think that virtual education is a worse option for democratizing the quality of education?
• (If yes, is it an implementation problem that can never be fixed, or do you just think that virtual education's categorically a bad idea?)

[Jolly]

1. I think virtual education is not as good as classroom education, given equivalently talented teachers, especially in some subject matter.

2. I think a totally democratic education is impossible, for multiple reasons.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Jolly said in Hallucinogens:

1. I think virtual education is not as good as classroom education, given equivalently talented teachers, especially in some subject matter.

2. I think a totally democratic education is impossible, for multiple reasons.

Surely it can support traditional education, though, right?

[Jolly]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Hallucinogens:

@Jolly said in Hallucinogens:

1. I think virtual education is not as good as classroom education, given equivalently talented teachers, especially in some subject matter.

2. I think a totally democratic education is impossible, for multiple reasons.

Surely it can support traditional education, though, right?

Support? Yes.

Many of the high schools are going to go A Class/B Class this fall. A is M/W, B is T/Th. That means about 10-12 students in the classroom per day. Out of classroom days are virtual.

I think that can work, because of the degree of personal interaction. I hope very hard, that teachers will assign reading and "enrichment" crap for the out of class days.

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in Hallucinogens:

1. I think virtual education is not as good as classroom education, given equivalently talented teachers, especially in some subject matter.

2. I think a totally democratic education is impossible, for multiple reasons.

Agree on both points.

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in Hallucinogens:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Hallucinogens:

@Jolly said in Hallucinogens:

1. I think virtual education is not as good as classroom education, given equivalently talented teachers, especially in some subject matter.

2. I think a totally democratic education is impossible, for multiple reasons.

Surely it can support traditional education, though, right?

Support? Yes.

Many of the high schools are going to go A Class/B Class this fall. A is M/W, B is T/Th. That means about 10-12 students in the classroom per day. Out of classroom days are virtual.

I think that can work, because of the degree of personal interaction. I hope very hard, that teachers will assign reading and "enrichment" crap for the out of class days.

I think in a lot of schools that use the hybrid, the "off" days will still be live, with the students not physically there still attending and seeing the teacher via a camera. Not as good as being there, but better than nothing.