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  • George KG George K

    Menendez faces new charges accusing him of working for foreign government

    The superseding indictment alleges Menendez, “provided sensitive U.S. Government information and took other steps that secretly aided the Government of Egypt.”

    Image: Recently Indicted New Jersey Sen. Menendez Delivers Statement To The Media In NJ
    Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., was hit with new charges Thursday accusing him of accepting bribes to behalf of a foreign government and acting as foreign agent, according to a superseding indictment.

    The new indictment, filed by a federal grand jury in Manhattan, alleges Menendez, “provided sensitive U.S. Government information and took other steps that secretly aided the Government of Egypt.”

    Menendez and his wife, Nadine, last month pleaded not guilty to corruption charges alleging that he and his wife used his influence to pocket hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes.

    "Provided sensitive information..."

    Another word for that is "spy."

    Still no call for expulsion from the Democrats in the Senate.

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    @George-K said in Menendez Indicted:

    Still no call for expulsion from the Democrats in the Senate.

    Does calling for Menendez to resign count?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4219197-here-are-the-democrats-who-have-called-for-menendez-to-resign/amp/

    Here are the Democrats who have called for Menendez to resign

    That's from Sep. 26, 2023.

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      And https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/sep/28/bob-menendez-cant-sway-fellow-dems-resignation-cal/

      Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, who was the first Democrat to call for resignation, said it was time for an expulsion resolution to oust Mr. Menendez.

      That's from Sep. 28, 2023.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @George-K said in Menendez Indicted:

        Still no call for expulsion from the Democrats in the Senate.

        Does calling for Menendez to resign count?

        https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4219197-here-are-the-democrats-who-have-called-for-menendez-to-resign/amp/

        Here are the Democrats who have called for Menendez to resign

        That's from Sep. 26, 2023.

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        @Axtremus said in Menendez Indicted:

        @George-K said in Menendez Indicted:

        Still no call for expulsion from the Democrats in the Senate.

        Does calling for Menendez to resign count?

        No. A call for someone to resign is not the same as making a motion to expel.

        Did Sen. Fetterman say that he will introduce a measure to expel Sen. Menendez, or just say "it's time?"

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Is it possible to expel someone if they do not want to resign?

          (He should, but I am just wondering if they can force him out before he is found guilty)

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            Is it possible to expel someone if they do not want to resign?

            (He should, but I am just wondering if they can force him out before he is found guilty)

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            @taiwan_girl said in Menendez Indicted:

            Is it possible to expel someone if they do not want to resign?

            (He should, but I am just wondering if they can force him out before he is found guilty)

            Yes.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_from_the_United_States_Congress

            Presently, the disciplinary process begins when a resolution to expel or censure a Member is referred to the appropriate committee. In the House, this is the Committee on Ethics (House Ethics Committee); in the Senate, this is the Select Committee on Ethics (Senate Ethics Committee).

            The committee may then ask other Representatives or Senators to come forward with complaints about the Member under consideration or may initiate an investigation into the Member's actions. Sometimes Members may refer a resolution calling for an investigation into a particular Member or matter that may lead to the recommendation of expulsion or censure.

            Rule XI (Procedures of committees and unfinished business) of the Rules of the House of Representatives states that the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct can investigate allegations that a Member violated "any law, rule, regulation, or other standard of conduct applicable to the conduct of such Member ... in the performance of his duties or the discharge of his responsibilities". The Senate Select Committee on Ethics has the same jurisdiction. The committee may then report back to their whole chamber as to its findings and recommendations for further actions.

            When an investigation is launched by either committee, an investigatory subcommittee will be formed. Once the investigatory subcommittee has collected evidence, talked to witnesses, and held an adjudicatory hearing, it will vote on whether the Member is found to have committed the specific actions and then will vote on recommendations. If expulsion is the recommendation then the subcommittee's report will be referred to the full House of Representatives or Senate where Members may vote to accept, reject, or alter the report's recommendation. Voting to expel requires the concurrence of two-thirds of the members. This is set out in Article 1, Section 5, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution.

            The last senator expelled was in 1862.

            ⅔ of the body has to vote to expel. That's a high hill to climb. I imagine all the GOP would vote for expulsion - that's 49. Gotta find another 15 (Fetterman's on board) Democrat senators to agree.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              I would think that Rep Santos would be easier to expel.

              (Actually, thinking about it, probably not. The Republics have too close a majority to risk losing a member)

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                I would think that Rep Santos would be easier to expel.

                (Actually, thinking about it, probably not. The Republics have too close a majority to risk losing a member)

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                @taiwan_girl said in Menendez Indicted:

                I would think that Rep Santos would be easier to expel.

                Perhaps, but Menendez alleged crimes seem more serious.

                (Actually, thinking about it, probably not. The Republics have too close a majority to risk losing a member)

                Yeah. If the GOP had a bigger majority, they might make that move. But they don't, and they didn't, because politics.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  It would be much easier for the Dems to expel Menendez. Governor Murphy (D-NJ) would choose his successor in a couple of days. If the house expels Santos, the Rs go down one and a special election is held, which could go either way.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/gold-bars-featured-in-bob-menendez-bribe-case-linked-to-2013-robbery-records-show/4919801/

                    At least four gold bars tied to the FBI search of Sen. Robert Menendez’s home had been directly linked to a New Jersey businessman now accused of bribing the state's senior senator, records show
                    The businessman, Fred Daibes, reported to police he was the victim of an armed robbery in 2013, and he asked police recover the 22 gold bars stolen from him
                    A decade later, four of those gold bars with unique serial numbers had come into the possession of Sen. Menendez and his wife, Nadine

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                      Ouch.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Lock him up.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Menendez Ally Pleads Guilty in Bribery Case and Agrees to Cooperate

                          Jose Uribe, a former New Jersey insurance broker charged in what prosecutors have described as a broad bribery scheme involving Senator Robert Menendez, pleaded guilty on Friday in Manhattan.

                          Mr. Uribe had been accused of providing Nadine Menendez, the senator’s wife, with a Mercedes-Benz in exchange for Mr. Menendez’s efforts to intercede in an insurance-fraud investigation in New Jersey.

                          As part of his guilty plea, Mr. Uribe also agreed to “cooperate fully” with prosecutors in their investigation, according to a formal plea agreement signed by Mr. Uribe, his lawyer and prosecutors in the U.S. attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York.

                          Mr. Uribe is expected to “truthfully and completely disclose all information with respect to the activities of himself and others concerning all matters about which this office inquires of him,” the agreement states.
                          He admitted providing the car to Ms. Menendez “with the intent to influence an official act” as he pleaded guilty to seven counts, including conspiracy to commit bribery, honest services wire fraud, obstruction of justice and tax evasion.

                          The judge, Sidney H. Stein of Federal District Court, set Mr. Uribe’s sentencing for June 14, which means it could come during the trial of Mr. Menendez and his three remaining co-defendants, which is scheduled to start on May 6.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            How is he still in the Senate?

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                              More charges:

                              https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/05/bob-menendez-egypt-qatar-bribery-counts/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

                              Menendez (D-N.J.); his wife, Nadine Menendez; and two associates, Wael Hana and Fred Daibes, were charged in an 18-count indictment that built upon the bribery charges they face in a case accusing them of conspiring to have the senator act as an illegal foreign agent on behalf of the Egyptian government.

                              Tuesday’s superseding indictment alleges again that Menendez and his wife accepted bribes — including cash, gold and a luxury car — in exchange for the senator to use his influence to benefit the Egyptian and Qatari governments.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                More charges:

                                https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/05/bob-menendez-egypt-qatar-bribery-counts/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

                                Menendez (D-N.J.); his wife, Nadine Menendez; and two associates, Wael Hana and Fred Daibes, were charged in an 18-count indictment that built upon the bribery charges they face in a case accusing them of conspiring to have the senator act as an illegal foreign agent on behalf of the Egyptian government.

                                Tuesday’s superseding indictment alleges again that Menendez and his wife accepted bribes — including cash, gold and a luxury car — in exchange for the senator to use his influence to benefit the Egyptian and Qatari governments.

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                                @George-K said in Menendez Indicted:

                                More charges:

                                https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/05/bob-menendez-egypt-qatar-bribery-counts/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

                                Menendez (D-N.J.); his wife, Nadine Menendez; and two associates, Wael Hana and Fred Daibes, were charged in an 18-count indictment that built upon the bribery charges they face in a case accusing them of conspiring to have the senator act as an illegal foreign agent on behalf of the Egyptian government.

                                Tuesday’s superseding indictment alleges again that Menendez and his wife accepted bribes — including cash, gold and a luxury car — in exchange for the senator to use his influence to benefit the Egyptian and Qatari governments.

                                The Just Us department at work once again. How is the Biden family still walking the streets while this poor guy is suffering?

                                I was only joking

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                                  Yeah, but...

                                  https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-application-is-denied-judge-rejects-trumps-bid-to-delay-e-jean-carroll-defamation-damages-trial-for-mother-in-laws-funeral/

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Bob's on the right team, dontchaknow.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Bob's on the right team, dontchaknow.

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                                      @Mik said in Menendez Indicted:

                                      Bob's on the right team, dontchaknow.

                                      In fairness, however, his wife is also under indictment, so that probably helps the cause for delay.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @Mik said in Menendez Indicted:

                                        Bob's on the right team, dontchaknow.

                                        In fairness, however, his wife is also under indictment, so that probably helps the cause for delay.

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                                        @George-K said in Menendez Indicted:

                                        his wife is also under indictment,

                                        and I believe that they are in one trial together.

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                                          The first half of this focus on Sen. Menendez, the second half rips into stock trading by Senators and Congressional Representatives:

                                          Link to video

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