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Covering the Spread

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    At what competitive level?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      At what competitive level?

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      Axtremus
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      @Jolly said in Covering the Spread:

      At what competitive level?

      Not sure if there was a "competitive level," I played for fun with friends, neighbors, school mates, fellow church congregants, co-workers, etc.

      Why do you ask?

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        As one goes up the sports ladder, things become serious. Much more serious.

        A high school athlete may dedicate a few hours each day to practice or training. A college athlete has special living arrangements and at the better programs, there is a bevy of nutritionists, strength coaches and position coaches. At that level, there is also NIL money. At the pro level, all that ratchets up by several notches. Sport is the athlete's life and his way of making a living.

        That's just an example looking at the seriousness of sports, as one moves up the ladder.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          #11

          This is a pro game we're talking about, with athletes dedicated to the sport. They are trained and should be doing their best to win.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Doctor Phibes
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            You can bet on sports in the UK. I can't really say that it's ruined it.

            I was only joking

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              I’m trying to think back 35 years to when I was a football fan. You would regularly see teams with no chance to win trying to score anyway out of pride.

              But with seconds left they’d usually snap the ball, the qb would take a knee, get tapped by a defensive lineman, and they’d all shake hands and walk off the field as the clock ran out.

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                This is a pro game we're talking about, with athletes dedicated to the sport. They are trained and should be doing their best to win.

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                @Jolly said in Covering the Spread:

                This is a pro game we're talking about, with athletes dedicated to the sport. They are trained and should be doing their best to win.

                But taking a meaningless low-probability shot at a touchdown vs. a high-probability shot at a meaningless field goal will not affect the game outcome either, but the margin of victory CAN have an effect on playoff tiebreakers. Strength of Victory and Best Combined Ranking in Points Scored and Points Allowed are tie breakers that may be used. The odds are extremely slim, but the Rams put themselves in a better position by kicking the three than taking a wing and a prayer shot at the endzone, gambling lines be damned.

                The Brad

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                  Yes, but we are having the conversation about whether the spread affected the play selection.

                  Without gambling where it's at today, we may not even be having the conversation.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    BTW, it's being talked about on Pat McAfee Show today.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Yes, but we are having the conversation about whether the spread affected the play selection.

                      Without gambling where it's at today, we may not even be having the conversation.

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                      @Jolly said in Covering the Spread:

                      Yes, but we are having the conversation about whether the spread affected the play selection.

                      Without gambling where it's at today, we may not even be having the conversation.

                      They are making the play that best helps their team. Even if victory is eliminated, 3 more points helps their team more than an incomplete pass attempt. If it fucked over some bettors and helped others is irrelevant. It was in the best interest of the team to kick the field goal.

                      The Brad

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                        1. Take a knee, to avoid injury - gutless and suspicious
                        2. Go for the TD - only 4 seconds left there would be no time for the field goal
                        3. Go for the Field Goal, then maybe time for 1 play - onside kick - they could tie the game

                        Was there any time left after the field goal?

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