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Secret Court, Secret Sentencing

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    It's past unusual. I think it's illegal.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
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      #3

      Why? The defendant seems in on it.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #4

        Court hearings and sentencing should be public record.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #5

          Wait, so a guy that comes in tactical armor and physically assaults officers is out but another guy that wasn’t even there is sentenced to 22 years?

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #6

            It seems to me the major injustice here is that the filthy magat is out of jail already.

            Read his story, skip page 1 and part of 2.

            https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs5746/files/Samuel Lazar Statement of Facts.pdf

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Court hearings and sentencing should be public record.

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              @Jolly said in Secret Court, Secret Sentencing:

              Court hearings and sentencing should be public record.

              I agree, actually.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by Jolly
                #8

                Nice deflection with the magat stuff.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                  #9

                  LD and I made the same point just used different language.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    LD and I made the same point just used different language.

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                    George K
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                    @jon-nyc said in Secret Court, Secret Sentencing:

                    LD and I made the same point just used different language.

                    Yes.

                    It would appear that one of the sentences in unjust. The question is, which one. With Lazar's case under wraps, we might never know.

                    Perhaps Ray Epps has some thoughts.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      taiwan_girl
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                      #11

                      Seems weird that this one "random" guy would have a secret trial and secret jail compared to all of the others.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/samuel-lazar-jan-6-rioter-secret-plea-deal-rcna118385

                        At a sealed proceeding in March 2022, Lazar pleaded guilty to a felony charge of assaulting, resisting or impeding certain officers, as well as aiding and abetting, and he agreed to cooperate with the government, according to the joint filing unsealed Monday. Lazar was sentenced to 30 months, or 2½ years, in federal prison on March 17, 2023, the filing said.

                        NBC News first reported on Lazar's sentencing the day it happened after it spotted members of his family at the courthouse. Lazar's family members would not say what happened during the proceeding and what sentence Lazar received. The Justice Department declined to comment on Lazar's case at the time.

                        The filing was released after a petition was filed by a media coalition, which includes NBC News. The coalition filed a motion to unseal in April and a renewed motion last week after U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson denied the initial request.

                        The extent of Lazar’s cooperation with the government is unclear.

                        Video shows Lazar on Jan. 6 yelling, "Let's get their guns! Let's get their guuuuuuunnnns!" over a bullhorn as rioters fight with police on the west side of the Capitol. Video from later in the day shows Lazar, accompanied by his sister, talking about assaults on law enforcement officers. “They maced us, those tyrannical pieces of s---, and we maced them right the f--- back," he said in video cited by the Justice Department. There is no evidence Lazar entered the Capitol.

                        Federal Bureau of Prisons records had indicated that Lazar was set to be released in September 2023, and the bureau told The Associated Press last month that he had been released after having served a sentence for assaulting or resisting a federal officer. The joint filing unsealed Monday confirmed Lazar was released on Sept. 13, having served his 2½-year sentence after credits for good behavior were factored in.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Stool pigeon.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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