Manchin is having trouble making a decision
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2023/09/14/manchin-2024-reelection-president/
During a series of private meetings in the Hamptons over Labor Day weekend, Manchin, his wife, Gayle, and their daughter, Heather, grappled with what the senator should do in 2024, according to two people familiar with the meetings who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations. One of the meetings was a private sit-down with former president Bill Clinton.
Manchin and his family said in the meetings that the senator was considering three options: running for reelection in West Virginia as an independent, running for president as a No Labels candidate or retiring from politics. Manchin has not decided what path to pursue, but it seemed clear to those he met with that he is likely to leave the Democratic Party if he chooses to stay in politics.
Manchin declined to comment through a spokesperson.
In some of the meetings, Democratic donors strongly urged Manchin to run for reelection in West Virginia, and Manchin said he believed he could win the race but only if he ran as an independent. Manchin has previously said he has considered leaving the Democratic Party, but people familiar with the meetings said Manchin was more adamant than he has been in public about his need to run as an independent to win.
He's 76 years old, ferchrissakes.
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He’s running for President. The rest is window dressing.
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78 at inauguration. As an independent he would have no constituency in Congress at all ergo no possibility to get anything done domestically. I'm not familiar with his foreign policy chops.
Nikki 24.
"You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell
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He's a Democrat in Independent clothing. He can't win the presidency. He might could make a showing in WV.
Personally, if I was him, I'd cast myself as a Voice of Reason, write a book or two and make some money lobbying.
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He's a Democrat in Independent clothing. He can't win the presidency. He might could make a showing in WV.
Personally, if I was him, I'd cast myself as a Voice of Reason, write a book or two and make some money lobbying.
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@Jolly said in Manchin is having trouble making a decision:
He can't win the presidency.
I think he could beat Mr. Trump.
Not being Trump or Biden is a very big advantage.
@Copper said in Manchin is having trouble making a decision:
Not being Trump or Biden is a very big advantage.
You're not wrong there. Every morning I thank the Good God Almighty that I'm not either of them.
And I'm not even religious.
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78 at inauguration. As an independent he would have no constituency in Congress at all ergo no possibility to get anything done domestically. I'm not familiar with his foreign policy chops.
Nikki 24.
@Mik said in Manchin is having trouble making a decision:
78 at inauguration. As an independent he would have no constituency in Congress at all ergo no possibility to get anything done domestically. I'm not familiar with his foreign policy chops.
Nikki 24.
Like many ‘independents’ (eg Bernie back in the day, even Lieberman) he’d caucus with one party or the other.
If you don't take it, it can only good happen.
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@Mik said in Manchin is having trouble making a decision:
78 at inauguration. As an independent he would have no constituency in Congress at all ergo no possibility to get anything done domestically. I'm not familiar with his foreign policy chops.
Nikki 24.
Like many ‘independents’ (eg Bernie back in the day, even Lieberman) he’d caucus with one party or the other.
@jon-nyc said in Manchin is having trouble making a decision:
@Mik said in Manchin is having trouble making a decision:
78 at inauguration. As an independent he would have no constituency in Congress at all ergo no possibility to get anything done domestically. I'm not familiar with his foreign policy chops.
Nikki 24.
Like many ‘independents’ (eg Bernie back in the day, even Lieberman) he’d caucus with one party or the other.
I think he’s referring to if he won the Presidency.
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@Mik said in Manchin is having trouble making a decision:
78 at inauguration. As an independent he would have no constituency in Congress at all ergo no possibility to get anything done domestically. I'm not familiar with his foreign policy chops.
Nikki 24.
Like many ‘independents’ (eg Bernie back in the day, even Lieberman) he’d caucus with one party or the other.
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The interesting question to me is whether the DNC and RNC would actively campaign against him or just ignore him. With Gabbert or Yang, you treat them the same way you would the Green Party or Libertarians. Manchin? That would be a little more difficult to do…
