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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #34

    Nitrogen escapes from tires just as fast as regular air does if the bead fails when temperatures get below -25 C. Single biggest problem next to dead batteries with cars here in winter.

    Elbows up!

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    • George KG George K

      @George-K said in An Experiment:

      "cruel and unusual."

      Remember, the other guy who was convicted of this murder was executed years ago. The only reason this one has taken so long is because the executioners were unable to find a vein for lethal injection. They spent two hours.

      Should've called me.

      AxtremusA Away
      AxtremusA Away
      Axtremus
      wrote on last edited by
      #35

      @George-K said in An Experiment:

      The only reason this one has taken so long is because the executioners were unable to find a vein for lethal injection. They spent two hours.

      Should've called me.

      Do you charge by the hour or by piece?
      Can they afford you?

      Also curious ... do you have to be certified to carry out the procedure to fulfill a death sentence? If so, what is that certification?

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @George-K said in An Experiment:

        The only reason this one has taken so long is because the executioners were unable to find a vein for lethal injection. They spent two hours.

        Should've called me.

        Do you charge by the hour or by piece?
        Can they afford you?

        Also curious ... do you have to be certified to carry out the procedure to fulfill a death sentence? If so, what is that certification?

        George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #36

        @Axtremus said in An Experiment:

        Do you charge by the hour or by piece?

        Yes

        Can they afford you?

        No

        Probably, now that I'm retired and I could use a little walking-around cash.

        Also curious ... do you have to be certified to carry out the procedure to fulfill a death sentence? If so, what is that certification?

        No clue.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @Copper said in An Experiment:

          I hate to judge without all the facts, but it sounds like your scientist friend does not understand. Nitrogen in the tires doesn't guarantee no leaks, but it does change the nature of leaks depending on several physical conditions. In general, it will not leak as fast.

          Nitrogen does not behave the same as plain old atmospheric air. I'm sure we can all agree on that.

          No, we can't. Atmospheric air is 79% nitrogen. Perhaps not "the same," but darn close. The difference in molecular weight (14 vs 16) is small. So a small difference in 21% of the sample. Perhaps the water vapor in atmospheric air makes a difference, but see below...

          Is Nitrogen in tires worth the trouble or expense? Sometimes.

          When?

          AAA likes nitrogen

          https://www.aaa.com/autorepair/articles/top-4-myths-vs-facts-about-using-nitrogen-to-inflate-car-tires

          Er..

          • both oxygen and nitrogen escape at the same rate.
          • nitrogen does not completely eliminate temperature-related pressure changes under normal driving conditions
          • Even tires filled with nitrogen still require regular pressure checks to identify slow leaks
          • Compressed air systems at most tire shops have moisture separators that limit the amount of water vapor in the compressed air supply. Limiting water vapor protects the tires and wheels as well as a shop's expensive air-powered tire mounting and installation tools.
          CopperC Offline
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          Copper
          wrote on last edited by
          #37

          @George-K said in An Experiment:

          Is Nitrogen in tires worth the trouble or expense? Sometimes.

          When?

          When the expense is zero.
          When the trouble is zero.
          See the AAA for more.

          @George-K said in An Experiment:

          Perhaps not "the same,"

          Yes, exactly.

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #38

            Well, he is a gas passer. Alabama needs them.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • bachophileB Offline
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              bachophile
              wrote on last edited by
              #39

              Why the hell don’t they put in a central line (femoral, jugular) if they can’t get a peripheral vein. If u put local in the puncture site it won’t be painful. That’s what I would do if they paid me to be the professional potassium injector.
              I think $10K per execution would be fair.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #40

                I think they have determined K is cruel and unusual?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  I think they have determined K is cruel and unusual?

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by George K
                  #41

                  @Jolly said in An Experiment:

                  I think they have determined K is cruel and unusual?

                  If given alone, I can see it being cruel and unusual.

                  We used to joke about the "Texas penal anesthetic":

                  • Pentothal
                  • Pancuronium
                  • Potassium

                  Effective, reliable, and always successful - if you can find a vein.

                  @bachophile said in An Experiment:

                  Why the hell don’t they put in a central line

                  The problem is finding a practitioner who would do that. Even finding a doc to administer whatever cocktail you choose can be hard, even if you find a vein.

                  Then, I'm sure some attorney would argue that putting in an IJ line is "cruel and unusual." At the university, we always put them in with the patient awake.

                  ETA: I had a classmate who offed himself with an injection of KCl...

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #42

                    Just send them into a doctor's office without a mask, during covid season.

                    That should do it.

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      Just send them into a doctor's office without a mask, during covid season.

                      That should do it.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #43

                      @Copper said in An Experiment:

                      Just send them into a doctor's office without a mask, during covid season.

                      That should do it.

                      Make sure...Make them take the jab, too!😋😋

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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