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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    Until the USSR stopped, the main "partner" of DPR Korea was the USSR. China did not become their main partner until somewhat recently (except of course at the formation of DPR Korea)

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    @taiwan_girl said in Tucker Carlson on Ukraine:

    Until the USSR stopped, the main "partner" of DPR Korea was the USSR. China did not become their main partner until somewhat recently (except of course at the formation of DPR Korea)

    That’s right. Even then though the relationship was tenuous since the North Koreans considered the Soviets to be ideological revisionists. Best relations NK had in those days was with Albania under the Stalinist xenophobe, Enver Hoxha. But Albania had nothing to offer in the way of technology so Kim Il Sung had no choice but maintain cautiously fraternal relations with the Kremlin.

    Elbows up!

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      @taiwan_girl said in Tucker Carlson on Ukraine:

      Until the USSR stopped, the main "partner" of DPR Korea was the USSR. China did not become their main partner until somewhat recently (except of course at the formation of DPR Korea)

      That’s right. Even then though the relationship was tenuous since the North Koreans considered the Soviets to be ideological revisionists. Best relations NK had in those days was with Albania under the Stalinist xenophobe, Enver Hoxha. But Albania had nothing to offer in the way of technology so Kim Il Sung had no choice but maintain cautiously fraternal relations with the Kremlin.

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      @Renauda said in Tucker Carlson on Ukraine:

      Albania under the Stalinist xenophobe, Enver Hoxha.

      Another country I would have thought interesting to visit. :eek

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        List of missiles that DPR Korea has

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          heh. Nodong.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @Renauda said in Tucker Carlson on Ukraine:

            Albania under the Stalinist xenophobe, Enver Hoxha.

            Another country I would have thought interesting to visit. :eek

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            @taiwan_girl Apart from the Albanian maffia, the country is just lovely 😉

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              Interesting picture of the Mercedes limo that Premier Kim uses as it is loaded onto his personal train. This is the armored train that Premier Kim took on his recent trip to visit Putin. Due to the back condition of the tracks in DPRK and the heavy weight of the train, it can only go about 65 km/hr.

              And, since the train gauge is different between the two countries, the wheels on the train had to be changed out at the border.

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                Interesting picture of the Mercedes limo that Premier Kim uses as it is loaded onto his personal train. This is the armored train that Premier Kim took on his recent trip to visit Putin. Due to the back condition of the tracks in DPRK and the heavy weight of the train, it can only go about 65 km/hr.

                And, since the train gauge is different between the two countries, the wheels on the train had to be changed out at the border.

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                @taiwan_girl said in Tucker Carlson on Ukraine:

                And, since the train gauge is different between the two countries, the wheels on the train had to be changed out at the border.

                Interestingly, to me, at least, is that North Korea uses the same track gauge as the United States, Great Britain, Greece, Cuba, Germany and many others. Four feet, 8 ½ inches. 1435 mm. About 55% of the world uses "standard" gauge.

                The Russians use "Russian" gauge - 4 ft 11 27/32 inches, or 1520 mm.

                I would be curious to see how the wheel sets were exchanged. Three inches is a big deal.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  That's what she said...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    @taiwan_girl said in Tucker Carlson on Ukraine:

                    And, since the train gauge is different between the two countries, the wheels on the train had to be changed out at the border.

                    Interestingly, to me, at least, is that North Korea uses the same track gauge as the United States, Great Britain, Greece, Cuba, Germany and many others. Four feet, 8 ½ inches. 1435 mm. About 55% of the world uses "standard" gauge.

                    The Russians use "Russian" gauge - 4 ft 11 27/32 inches, or 1520 mm.

                    I would be curious to see how the wheel sets were exchanged. Three inches is a big deal.

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                    @George-K

                    would be curious to see how the wheel sets were exchanged.

                    In the ‘70s a friend of mine once travelled from Moscow to Warsaw by train and this is how he described what took place at the border rail yard:

                    The individual carriages have release
                    pins on the undercarriages. When the train arrives at the border, the carriage utility systems are disconnected and the pins are released. A crane system lifts the carriage from the chassis and transfers it to the new undercarriage on the different gauge. The carriages are then connected to a new engine and the transfer is complete.

                    The passengers were, of course, off loaded and waited about two hours in the station for the carriage transfer to be completed.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @George-K

                      would be curious to see how the wheel sets were exchanged.

                      In the ‘70s a friend of mine once travelled from Moscow to Warsaw by train and this is how he described what took place at the border rail yard:

                      The individual carriages have release
                      pins on the undercarriages. When the train arrives at the border, the carriage utility systems are disconnected and the pins are released. A crane system lifts the carriage from the chassis and transfers it to the new undercarriage on the different gauge. The carriages are then connected to a new engine and the transfer is complete.

                      The passengers were, of course, off loaded and waited about two hours in the station for the carriage transfer to be completed.

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                      @Renauda thanks for that.

                      It would still be a major production - making sure that the fittings for the trucks are secure, etc. I guess if you do it enough times.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogie_exchange

                        Bogie_change_station_at_Chop_station_Ukraine.jpg

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                        North Korea

                        Tumangan, North Korea – between 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) and 1,520 mm (4 ft 11+27⁄32 in) (Russian gauge) at the border to Russia.
                        The bogies of the direct sleeping car Moscow – Pyongyang, which runs twice monthly, are exchanged there.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          There, that explains the transfer in full detail. I don’t imagine it was much different back in the ‘70s when my friend was present.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            Interesting picture of the Mercedes limo that Premier Kim uses as it is loaded onto his personal train. This is the armored train that Premier Kim took on his recent trip to visit Putin. Due to the back condition of the tracks in DPRK and the heavy weight of the train, it can only go about 65 km/hr.

                            And, since the train gauge is different between the two countries, the wheels on the train had to be changed out at the border.

                            alt text

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                            @taiwan_girl said in Tucker Carlson on Ukraine:

                            Interesting picture of the Mercedes limo that Premier Kim uses as it is loaded onto his personal train. This is the armored train that Premier Kim took on his recent trip to visit Putin. Due to the back condition of the tracks in DPRK and the heavy weight of the train, it can only go about 65 km/hr.

                            And, since the train gauge is different between the two countries, the wheels on the train had to be changed out at the border.

                            alt text

                            A bit of follow up related to the above

                            http://kcna.kp/kp/article/q/0e4a6b4c64837160679299db3a99db41.kcmsf

                            Pyongyang, February 20 (KCNA) -- Kim Jong Un, president of the State Affairs of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), was presented with a car made in Russia for his personal use by Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, president of the Russian Federation.

                            The gift to the respected Comrade Kim Jong Un from Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was conveyed to Pak Jong Chon, secretary of the Central Committee of the Workers' Party of Korea (WPK), and Kim Yo Jong, vice department director of the WPK Central Committee, by the Russian side on February 18.

                            Kim Yo Jong courteously conveyed Kim Jong Un's thanks to Putin to the Russian side, saying that the gift serves as a clear demonstration of the special relations of friendship between the top leaders of the DPRK and Russia and as the best present.

                            (Regarding the above picture, someone told me that it was a Maybach car rather than a Mercedes. Dont know enough about the two to tell the difference)

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