Are forced-reset triggers illegal machine guns?
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Link to video
Go to about 1 min 5 sec to see it in action. (Seems to be like a machine gun to me)
"On the firing range, guns equipped with either bump stocks or forced-reset triggers certainly look and sound like machine guns. In court filings, the ATF said testing on the FRT-15 triggers showed their rate of fire can meet or exceed that the military’s M-16 machine gun, which can fire 700 to 970 rounds a minute."
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Link to video
Go to about 1 min 5 sec to see it in action. (Seems to be like a machine gun to me)
"On the firing range, guns equipped with either bump stocks or forced-reset triggers certainly look and sound like machine guns. In court filings, the ATF said testing on the FRT-15 triggers showed their rate of fire can meet or exceed that the military’s M-16 machine gun, which can fire 700 to 970 rounds a minute."
@taiwan_girl said in Are forced-reset triggers illegal machine guns?:
can fire 700 to 970 rounds a minute
I've been wondering about this number. I see similar rates of fire in many articles, videos, etc.
700 rounds per minute is 11 rounds per second.
But, as a matter of practicality, a magazine holds, 10 rounds? You're going to go thru that in about 1 second, right? Granted, there are higher-capacity mags out there, but I gather that about 10 is typical.
In this video he empties the mag in less than 2 seconds.
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It will be interesting to see how this is interpreted by the courts. It is humanly impossible to pull the trigger as fast as that gun shoots.
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You can really see how that would come in useful, and clearly it's covered by the Constitution.
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It will be interesting to see how this is interpreted by the courts. It is humanly impossible to pull the trigger as fast as that gun shoots.
@taiwan_girl said in Are forced-reset triggers illegal machine guns?:
Link to videoIt will be interesting to see how this is interpreted by the courts. It is humanly impossible to pull the trigger as fast as that gun shoots.
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It will be interesting to see how this is interpreted by the courts. It is humanly impossible to pull the trigger as fast as that gun shoots.
@taiwan_girl said in Are forced-reset triggers illegal machine guns?:
It will be interesting to see how this is interpreted by the courts. It is humanly impossible to pull the trigger as fast as that gun shoots.
The courts might want to read the NFA...
The National Firearms Act defines "machinegun" as any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically, by a single function of the trigger.
That has always meant a single pull of the trigger.
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@taiwan_girl said in Are forced-reset triggers illegal machine guns?:
It will be interesting to see how this is interpreted by the courts. It is humanly impossible to pull the trigger as fast as that gun shoots.
The courts might want to read the NFA...
The National Firearms Act defines "machinegun" as any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically, by a single function of the trigger.
That has always meant a single pull of the trigger.
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Obviously the intent of the law was to prevent this sort of operation.
Again I’m left wondering what the point of being able to do this is.
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Obviously the intent of the law was to prevent this sort of operation.
Again I’m left wondering what the point of being able to do this is.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Are forced-reset triggers illegal machine guns?:
I’m left wondering what the point of being able to do this is.
Freedom.
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@Jolly I don't see how someone could claim that a human is pulling the trigger 30 times in a second. If my understanding is correct with these devices, the human is only pulling the trigger one time.
@taiwan_girl said in Are forced-reset triggers illegal machine guns?:
@Jolly I don't see how someone could claim that a human is pulling the trigger 30 times in a second. If my understanding is correct with these devices, the human is only pulling the trigger one time.
Do some research on forced reset vs. triggers with an auto sear.
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@taiwan_girl said in Are forced-reset triggers illegal machine guns?:
@Jolly I don't see how someone could claim that a human is pulling the trigger 30 times in a second. If my understanding is correct with these devices, the human is only pulling the trigger one time.
Do some research on forced reset vs. triggers with an auto sear.
@Jolly said in Are forced-reset triggers illegal machine guns?:
@taiwan_girl said in Are forced-reset triggers illegal machine guns?:
@Jolly I don't see how someone could claim that a human is pulling the trigger 30 times in a second. If my understanding is correct with these devices, the human is only pulling the trigger one time.
Do some research on forced reset vs. triggers with an auto sear.
I would be interested to hear your opinion. Do you think that the above qualifies as a machine gun?
From my understanding, the National Firearms Act "bars the public from owning machine guns, which are defined as firearms capable of firing more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single pull of a trigger, or “any part” that converts a weapon into a machine gun."
