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  • HoraceH Horace

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:

    @Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:

    Soccer is immediately comprehensible, not so baseball or football.

    Americans don't watch baseball and football because they enjoy the complexity,

    That's not my point. My point is that new viewers are lost anyway. Soccer has no barrier to entry.

    I know it's enticing to just claim everything is cultural and all sports are the same, but there might be interesting points to be made by snorkeling a centimeter under the surface of the discussion.

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:

    @Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:

    Soccer is immediately comprehensible, not so baseball or football.

    Americans don't watch baseball and football because they enjoy the complexity,

    That's not my point. My point is that new viewers are lost anyway. Soccer has no barrier to entry.

    I know it's enticing to just claim everything is cultural and all sports are the same, but there might be interesting points to be made by snorkeling a centimeter under the surface of the discussion.

    Well, OK, not all sports are the same. American sports are shit primarily concerned with allowing commercial breaks every few minutes.

    I was only joking

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      Jolly
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      Actually, the most popular American sports are characterized by complexity and extreme amounts of action.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Horace
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        #29

        They say American football has very little action, but that doesn't take into account the time for replays and reflection on the action of the previous play. there's a huge amount of choreographed stuff happening on the field each play, so the time between plays can always be used to zoom in on pieces of it. The commercials are tedious, of course.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #30

          Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.

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            @Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:

            Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.

            Baseball is a game within a game, admitted.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Jolly
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              #32

              American football has a gazillion things going on every play.

              1. Down and distance is weighed against defensive tendencies, while considering not leaning on offensive tendencies too much. This determines the plays (you never send in just one) and the player personnel package.
              2. While the offense is doing this, the defense is doing much the same.
              3. The QB will bring the offense to the line, run the called play or audible to another play. Sometimes, he may have to reset his formation on the fly.
              4. When the ball is snapped, 11 guys on either side of the ball have a job to do. Perfect execution by the offense often results in a score. Perfect execution by the defense results in no gain or loss.
              5. And this happens over and over again, every 40 seconds.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #33

                The real problem is that you chaps left the Empire too early, before we'd developed proper sport, so you were left trying to develop your own in a cultural wasteland of your own choosing.

                I do actually find this question quite interesting - the US is clearly an outlier in that it doesn't really focus on the same team sports as much of the rest of the world.

                I was only joking

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                  Jolly
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                  Do you know what it costs to dress out an American football player? 😱😱😱

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Do you know what it costs to dress out an American football player? 😱😱😱

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                    @Jolly said in Bye, Rapinoe:

                    Do you know what it costs to dress out an American football player? 😱😱😱

                    Probably about as much as an F1 tire.

                    It's expensive, but it's not F1 expensive.

                    I was only joking

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:

                      Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.

                      Baseball is a game within a game, admitted.

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                      @Jolly said in Bye, Rapinoe:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:

                      Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.

                      Baseball is a game within a game, admitted.

                      We've been watching more baseball this year than ever. My appreciation for the 'game within a game', as Jolly says, has come back from when I played and knew it so well. Defense is awesome to watch in action.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        Copper
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                        #37

                        I have to say that Irish hurling has the most action, with lots of hitting.

                        It is kind of a cross between ice hockey and rugby.

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                          I just discovered hurling the other night on PBS show Hidden Ireland. Looks cool.

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            A few years ago there was a startup sport called Extreme Arm Wrestling. It was arm wrestling where the opponents could punch each other over the table with their free hands.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              I'd watch that. Once, probably, but still...

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                              • MikM Mik

                                I'd watch that. Once, probably, but still...

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                                @Mik said in Bye, Rapinoe:

                                I'd watch that. Once, probably, but still...

                                There was a time when you would have been a contender…

                                The Brad

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                                  George K
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Jolly
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                                    Well, got to convict him of something...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      George K
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                                      Screenshot 2023-08-08 at 5.27.16 PM.png

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        I believe she has already retired

                                        Olympic Committee Bans Megan Rapinoe For Life Because “She’s a Troublemaker”

                                        https://news20click.com/olympic-committee-bans-megan-rapinoe-for-life-because-shes-a-troublemaker/

                                        In a surprising turn of events, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) has made a bold decision to ban Megan Rapinoe, the outspoken soccer star, from participating in any future Olympic Games. This comes as a shock to many, as Rapinoe has been a prominent figure in the sports world, known for her activism and strong opinions. The move raises questions about the line between an athlete’s right to free speech and the responsibility that comes with representing their country on an international stage.

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