Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. Radiologists vs AI

Radiologists vs AI

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
7 Posts 6 Posters 143 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • J Offline
    J Offline
    Jon
    wrote on 1 Aug 2023, 11:13 last edited by
    #1

    The good news is after they’re pwned by the computer a few times they can probably learn to take discrepancies a bit more seriously.

    D 1 Reply Last reply 1 Aug 2023, 11:18
    • J Jon
      1 Aug 2023, 11:13

      The good news is after they’re pwned by the computer a few times they can probably learn to take discrepancies a bit more seriously.

      D Online
      D Online
      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 1 Aug 2023, 11:18 last edited by
      #2

      @Jon said in Radiologists vs AI:

      The good news is after they’re pwned by the computer a few times they can probably learn to take discrepancies a bit more seriously.

      I'd guess that the next generation of pretty much everybody is going to be a lot more adept at working with AI

      I was only joking

      A 1 Reply Last reply 1 Aug 2023, 13:55
      • G Offline
        G Offline
        George K
        wrote on 1 Aug 2023, 11:54 last edited by
        #3

        I've seen reports of stuff like this in the past - before the term "AI" became popular. I suppose it's inevitable that machine learning can spot things that the human eye can't see or ignore.

        This may be one of the reasons that Interventional Radiology appears to be getting more popular - it's literally "hands on" as opposed to "eyes on."

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

        1 Reply Last reply
        • K Offline
          K Offline
          Klaus
          wrote on 1 Aug 2023, 12:47 last edited by
          #4

          @George-K I would imagine that a major benefit of AI-based CT scan diagnosis would be that one could feed it way more images than a human radiologist could ever handle. Like, say, a CT with ten images per millimeter, from toe to hair. Maybe for something like all-purpose cancer screening.

          1 Reply Last reply
          • A Away
            A Away
            Axtremus
            wrote on 1 Aug 2023, 12:49 last edited by
            #5

            One barrier to human-AI collaboration is the inability of AI to “explain” its inferences. Given an input, an AI model can tell you this input maps to that output, but it cannot explain to you “why” it mapped the input to that particular output. “Explainable AI” is still a big, unresolved problem.

            1 Reply Last reply
            • K Offline
              K Offline
              Klaus
              wrote on 1 Aug 2023, 12:53 last edited by
              #6

              I would say "explainable machine learning" is a big unresolved problem. Or, even more specifically, "explainable deep neural networks".

              Other forms of AI are perfectly explainable. For instance, SAT solvers usually generate a concrete counterexample if they reject a formula.

              1 Reply Last reply
              • D Doctor Phibes
                1 Aug 2023, 11:18

                @Jon said in Radiologists vs AI:

                The good news is after they’re pwned by the computer a few times they can probably learn to take discrepancies a bit more seriously.

                I'd guess that the next generation of pretty much everybody is going to be a lot more adept at working with AI

                A Offline
                A Offline
                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 1 Aug 2023, 13:55 last edited by
                #7

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Radiologists vs AI:

                @Jon said in Radiologists vs AI:

                The good news is after they’re pwned by the computer a few times they can probably learn to take discrepancies a bit more seriously.

                I'd guess that the next generation of pretty much everybody is going to be a lot more adept at working with AI

                I called the radiology shit about 8 months ago. Just sayin'.

                Please love yourself.

                1 Reply Last reply
                Reply
                • Reply as topic
                Log in to reply
                • Oldest to Newest
                • Newest to Oldest
                • Most Votes

                4/7

                1 Aug 2023, 12:47


                • Login

                • Don't have an account? Register

                • Login or register to search.
                4 out of 7
                • First post
                  4/7
                  Last post
                0
                • Categories
                • Recent
                • Tags
                • Popular
                • Users
                • Groups