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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    To me, it makes sense to have some sort of "ethics" requirements, no matter who puts it in place, even if they do it themself.

    Not sure why the Supreme Court judges seem to be resisting it.

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      They police themselves. For the most part, they do a much better job than Congress.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        To me, it makes sense to have some sort of "ethics" requirements, no matter who puts it in place, even if they do it themself.

        Not sure why the Supreme Court judges seem to be resisting it.

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        @taiwan_girl said in Alito: Congress has no authority:

        Not sure why the Supreme Court judges seem to be resisting it.

        Co-equal branch, and it's a matter of not letting the camel poke its nose under the tent flap principle. The Supreme Court has no authority over how Congress elects its committee memberships, what the rules for legislation are, or what ethics rules it implements. That door swings both ways.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @taiwan_girl said in Alito: Congress has no authority:

          Not sure why the Supreme Court judges seem to be resisting it.

          Co-equal branch, and it's a matter of not letting the camel poke its nose under the tent flap principle. The Supreme Court has no authority over how Congress elects its committee memberships, what the rules for legislation are, or what ethics rules it implements. That door swings both ways.

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          @George-K said in Alito: Congress has no authority:

          @taiwan_girl said in Alito: Congress has no authority:

          Not sure why the Supreme Court judges seem to be resisting it.

          Co-equal branch, and it's a matter of not letting the camel poke its nose under the tent flap principle. The Supreme Court has no authority over how Congress elects its committee memberships, what the rules for legislation are, or what ethics rules it implements. That door swings both ways.

          I absolutely understand that. But, it would be pretty easy to write up a set of standards for themselfs. It just does not look good.

          As you have say, "it is the appearance"

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            Well, they've made it a couple of hundred years and change, without congressional "oversight".

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG George K

              https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/defiant-alito-declares-congress-has-no-authority-regulate-scotus

              Supreme Court Associate Justice Samuel Alito on Friday asserted that Congress lacks the authority to regulate the top bench amid a push from Senate Democrats to force the court to reform its handling of ethics issues following critical reporting on some of the justices' disclosures or lack thereof.

              "I know this is a controversial view, but I’m willing to say it... No provision in the Constitution gives them the authority to regulate the Supreme Court—period," he told the Wall Street Journal in an interview.

              His comments follow efforts from the Senate Judiciary Committee to require that the court draft a code of conduct and create a process by which the public may submit complaints against its members over ethics issues.

              The committee approved the Supreme Court Ethics, Recusal and Transparency Act on a party line 11-10 vote last week. Republicans have contended that the effort represents a Democratic attempt to rein in the Supreme Court amid frustrations over a string of recent conservative decisions, which Chairman Dick Durbin, D-Ill., denies.

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              @George-K said in Alito: Congress has no authority:

              "I know this is a controversial view, but I’m willing to say it... No provision in the Constitution gives them the authority to regulate the Supreme Court—period," he told the Wall Street Journal in an interview.

              Judge Kagan disagrees a bit.

              "Kagan said it was unclear what precisely Alito may have been asked when he told the Wall Street Journal "Congress did not create the Supreme Court" and as a result lawmakers do not have the authority to regulate the nation's highest court."

              But...............

              "....said there are clearly examples of Congress' ability to regulate the court. The liberal justice did say there were limits though, The Washington Post reported.

              "Of course, Congress can regulate various aspects of what the Supreme Court does," she said. "Congress funds the Supreme Court. Congress historically has made changes to the court's structure and composition. Congress has made changes to the court's appellate jurisdiction." "

              https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/courts/kagan-clashes-with-alito-on-supreme-court-ethics-code

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @George-K said in Alito: Congress has no authority:

                "I know this is a controversial view, but I’m willing to say it... No provision in the Constitution gives them the authority to regulate the Supreme Court—period," he told the Wall Street Journal in an interview.

                Judge Kagan disagrees a bit.

                "Kagan said it was unclear what precisely Alito may have been asked when he told the Wall Street Journal "Congress did not create the Supreme Court" and as a result lawmakers do not have the authority to regulate the nation's highest court."

                But...............

                "....said there are clearly examples of Congress' ability to regulate the court. The liberal justice did say there were limits though, The Washington Post reported.

                "Of course, Congress can regulate various aspects of what the Supreme Court does," she said. "Congress funds the Supreme Court. Congress historically has made changes to the court's structure and composition. Congress has made changes to the court's appellate jurisdiction." "

                https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/courts/kagan-clashes-with-alito-on-supreme-court-ethics-code

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                #27

                @taiwan_girl said in Alito: Congress has no authority:

                @George-K said in Alito: Congress has no authority:

                "I know this is a controversial view, but I’m willing to say it... No provision in the Constitution gives them the authority to regulate the Supreme Court—period," he told the Wall Street Journal in an interview.

                Judge Kagan disagrees a bit.

                "Kagan said it was unclear what precisely Alito may have been asked when he told the Wall Street Journal "Congress did not create the Supreme Court" and as a result lawmakers do not have the authority to regulate the nation's highest court."

                But...............

                "....said there are clearly examples of Congress' ability to regulate the court. The liberal justice did say there were limits though, The Washington Post reported.

                "Of course, Congress can regulate various aspects of what the Supreme Court does," she said. "Congress funds the Supreme Court. Congress historically has made changes to the court's structure and composition. Congress has made changes to the court's appellate jurisdiction." "

                https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/courts/kagan-clashes-with-alito-on-supreme-court-ethics-code

                In context with the Schumer/Alito debate, that argument is kinda irrelevant.

                The Brad

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