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  • George KG Offline
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/07/20/nyc-migrant-fliers-shelter/


    New York City will distribute fliers at the U.S.-Mexico border aimed at discouraging asylum seekers from settling in the East Coast metropolis long known for welcoming outsiders with open arms.
    The city has received more than 90,000 migrants since April 2022, and some 54,800 remain in its care, the mayor’s office said in a statement Wednesday announcing the move. New York is “at capacity,” it said.
    “Please consider another city as you make your decision about where to settle in the U.S.,” the bright-yellow fliers read in English and Spanish. Noting that New York is the most expensive place to live in the United States, the leaflets caution that there is “no guarantee we will be able to provide shelter and services to new arrivals.”
    The city will also start giving 60 days’ notice to adult asylum seekers staying in shelters, after which they will need to reapply for a shelter placement.
    New York City law protects the right to shelter, and the move could raise legal challenges, advocacy groups said.
    The attempt “to dissuade immigrants from coming to New York City is cruel, unlawful, and flies in the face of New Yorkers’ values of compassion and care,” the American Civil Liberties Union of New York wrote on Twitter.
    New York City’s shelter system stressed by thousands of migrants
    New York Mayor Eric Adams (D) defended the campaign at a news conference on Wednesday.
    “New York City has done more than any other level of government” to accommodate migrants, he said. “But we cannot continue to absorb tens of thousands of newcomers on our own without the help of the state and federal government.”

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/07/20/nyc-migrant-fliers-shelter/


      New York City will distribute fliers at the U.S.-Mexico border aimed at discouraging asylum seekers from settling in the East Coast metropolis long known for welcoming outsiders with open arms.
      The city has received more than 90,000 migrants since April 2022, and some 54,800 remain in its care, the mayor’s office said in a statement Wednesday announcing the move. New York is “at capacity,” it said.
      “Please consider another city as you make your decision about where to settle in the U.S.,” the bright-yellow fliers read in English and Spanish. Noting that New York is the most expensive place to live in the United States, the leaflets caution that there is “no guarantee we will be able to provide shelter and services to new arrivals.”
      The city will also start giving 60 days’ notice to adult asylum seekers staying in shelters, after which they will need to reapply for a shelter placement.
      New York City law protects the right to shelter, and the move could raise legal challenges, advocacy groups said.
      The attempt “to dissuade immigrants from coming to New York City is cruel, unlawful, and flies in the face of New Yorkers’ values of compassion and care,” the American Civil Liberties Union of New York wrote on Twitter.
      New York City’s shelter system stressed by thousands of migrants
      New York Mayor Eric Adams (D) defended the campaign at a news conference on Wednesday.
      “New York City has done more than any other level of government” to accommodate migrants, he said. “But we cannot continue to absorb tens of thousands of newcomers on our own without the help of the state and federal government.”

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      Horace
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      @George-K said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

      The city will also start giving 60 days’ notice to adult asylum seekers staying in shelters,

      Have they euphemized "asylum seekers" now? I'm old enough to remember when that was a legal definition. Now, I bet the left has euphemized all illegals that way.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • JonJ Offline
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        That’s their legal status. They come in, claim asylum, and are released pending a hearing many months away.

        If someone just comes in and doesn’t register for asylum they euphemize it differently: undocumented.

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        • JonJ Jon

          That’s their legal status. They come in, claim asylum, and are released pending a hearing many months away.

          If someone just comes in and doesn’t register for asylum they euphemize it differently: undocumented.

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          George K
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          @Jon said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

          released pending a hearing many months away.

          LOL. How many do you think actually show up?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/07/20/nyc-migrant-fliers-shelter/


              New York City will distribute fliers at the U.S.-Mexico border aimed at discouraging asylum seekers from settling in the East Coast metropolis long known for welcoming outsiders with open arms.
              The city has received more than 90,000 migrants since April 2022, and some 54,800 remain in its care, the mayor’s office said in a statement Wednesday announcing the move. New York is “at capacity,” it said.
              “Please consider another city as you make your decision about where to settle in the U.S.,” the bright-yellow fliers read in English and Spanish. Noting that New York is the most expensive place to live in the United States, the leaflets caution that there is “no guarantee we will be able to provide shelter and services to new arrivals.”
              The city will also start giving 60 days’ notice to adult asylum seekers staying in shelters, after which they will need to reapply for a shelter placement.
              New York City law protects the right to shelter, and the move could raise legal challenges, advocacy groups said.
              The attempt “to dissuade immigrants from coming to New York City is cruel, unlawful, and flies in the face of New Yorkers’ values of compassion and care,” the American Civil Liberties Union of New York wrote on Twitter.
              New York City’s shelter system stressed by thousands of migrants
              New York Mayor Eric Adams (D) defended the campaign at a news conference on Wednesday.
              “New York City has done more than any other level of government” to accommodate migrants, he said. “But we cannot continue to absorb tens of thousands of newcomers on our own without the help of the state and federal government.”

              CopperC Offline
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              @George-K said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

              “no guarantee we will be able to provide shelter and services to new arrivals.”

              Heartless
              cruel
              evil

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                @George-K said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

                The city will also start giving 60 days’ notice to adult asylum seekers staying in shelters,

                Have they euphemized "asylum seekers" now? I'm old enough to remember when that was a legal definition. Now, I bet the left has euphemized all illegals that way.

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                @Horace said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

                @George-K said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

                The city will also start giving 60 days’ notice to adult asylum seekers staying in shelters,

                Have they euphemized "asylum seekers" now? I'm old enough to remember when that was a legal definition. Now, I bet the left has euphemized all illegals that way.

                I think the next step is euthanize.

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    NYC is getting what? 10,000/month?

                    Texas gets 150,000 in the same time frame.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      NYC is getting what? 10,000/month?

                      Texas gets 150,000 in the same time frame.

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                      @Jolly said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

                      NYC is getting what? 10,000/month?

                      I think their total is 35K.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #11

                        Lots of kids with no English and little education showing up at schools and expected by the powers that be to take the algebra regents exam in June. My girlfriend taught at this high school until moving just this week to a school in Manhattan.

                        https://nypost.com/2023/09/07/queens-high-school-hits-capacity-amid-migrant-influx/

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Smart move.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            I would be curious to know how much federal aid Texas get for migration vs. new york.

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                              I would be curious to know how much federal aid Texas get for migration vs. new york.

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                              @taiwan_girl said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

                              I would be curious to know how much federal aid Texas get for migration vs. new york.

                              Good question.

                              A related question that Mrs. George mentioned is what kind of facilities exist in Texas (and Arizona) for caring for these "migrants" vs New York.

                              Are they being put up in hotels (in New York) or police stations (in Chicago)? Who's paying for the housing and meals?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Jolly said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

                                NYC is getting what? 10,000/month?

                                I think their total is 35K.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                @George-K said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

                                @Jolly said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

                                NYC is getting what? 10,000/month?

                                I think their total is 35K.

                                From the Beeb: Since April 2022, 110,000 migrants have come to New York, with 10,000 arriving a month,

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @George-K said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

                                  @Jolly said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

                                  NYC is getting what? 10,000/month?

                                  I think their total is 35K.

                                  From the Beeb: Since April 2022, 110,000 migrants have come to New York, with 10,000 arriving a month,

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  @jon-nyc said in "Sanctuary" City - find another city:

                                  From the Beeb: Since April 2022, 110,000 migrants have come to New York, with 10,000 arriving a month,

                                  Ah, so the felonious madman governor of Texas actions account for a third of that.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Well it’s not like NYC ever lacked for immigrants.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      They used to be legal

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                                        Blue on Blue...

                                        The mayor of Chicago slammed recent apocalyptic comments by New York Mayor Eric Adams about the large number of migrants arriving in his city.

                                        Adams said the growing influx of migrants will “destroy” New York. But Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson took a far more compassionate approach, urging in an interview with the Chicago Sun-Times that they should be welcomed.

                                        “We are a city of big shoulders," Johnson said. "We’ve been through difficult moments and challenges before. And we’re going to get to the other side of this. I’m confident of that … I was elected to lead. This is not a challenge that will overwhelm us,” Johnson said.

                                        Johnson underscored the importance of not abandoning incoming migrants without housing and work permits, which he warned risked triggering chaos.

                                        “If we do not create an infrastructure where we’re able to support, and quite frankly, contain these individuals who have experienced a great deal of harm, individuals who are desperate – if we do not provide support for these individuals and these families, that type of desperation will lead to chaos," he said.

                                        Johnson, clearly referring to the comments by Adams, said he would not “accept the notion that the city of Chicago is going to be destroyed … This is not a challenge that will overwhelm us.”

                                        And this.

                                        Johnson spoke to the newspaper after it was revealed he created plans to build heated tents for thousands of unhoused people in the city over the winter.

                                        Tents, in Chicago. In winter. Heated or not, it ain't gonna be pretty.

                                        Meanwhile Let's Go Brandon has also moved them to O'Hare.

                                        As of a week ago, 1,576 migrants were living in Chicago police stations and another 418 were sleeping inside O’Hare International Airport, according to city data.

                                        “We’ve identified multiple locations around the city that can be suitable to treat the families of individuals, who by law are seeking asylum constitutionally, legally, to have a place that recognizes their dignity,” Johnson said.

                                        Aldermen Alderpersons are unhappy, saying that the city is "full" and are resistant to suggesting 2-3 sites in each ward for the migrants to be housed. Showers will be provided.

                                        Lightfoot bussed a bunch of migrants to the Chicago suburbs a while ago - I believe they were put up in a hotel. I wonder if they're still there, after they (cough) checked in for their amnesty hearings.

                                        Brandon is saying that Chicago taxpayers will have to sacrifice to accommodate all the migrants.

                                        Projected expenditures were anticipated to hit $238.3 million by the end of this year but that number could reach $302 million when factoring in the new tent encampment sites, the sources said.

                                        Meanwhile, Johnson did not rule out new or increased levies to pay for the services.

                                        “So the sacrifices that will be required in this moment will be necessary from all of us, every single level of government,” Johnson said at an unrelated news conference Friday when asked about whether additional revenue will be needed.

                                        “Look, I can tell you that the cost of inaction will be far more substantial,” he said. “The point here is: Police stations being used as landing zones, that’s what I inherited. And I’ve said that from the very beginning that this is not dignified. So my plan is to move, with expediency, families out of police stations into housing and shelter that’s more suitable.”

                                        Does anyone see this getting any better?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          No.

                                          Not in Chicago. I think the guy in New York has turned a corner.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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