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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-korea-us-national-american-crosses-border-demilitarized-zone-dmz-tour/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=225639217

    A U.S. service member crossed into North Korea and was believed to be in the custody of the country's forces, U.S. and international officials said Tuesday. The United Nations Command, which operates the Joint Security Area (JSA) within the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea, first confirmed that an unidentified U.S. national had crossed the border.

    U.S. officials told CBS News the soldier in question was Private 2nd Class Travis King, who was being escorted back to the United States from South Korea for disciplinary reasons. After going through airport security to leave, they somehow returned and managed to join a border tour group before "willfully" crossing into North Korea, the officials said.

    "A U.S. National on a JSA orientation tour crossed, without authorization, the Military Demarcation Line into the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK)," U.N. Command said in its earlier statement, using the formal name for North Korea. "We believe he is currently in DPRK custody and are working with our KPA [North Korean army] counterparts to resolve this incident."

    Local media said the man, who was visiting the Military Demarcation Line at Panmunjom with a civilian tour group, crossed the border at 3:27 p.m. local time (2:27 a.m. Eastern).

    I'm sure that whatever discipline he was facing from the US was much harsher than what he'll experience in North Korea, right?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-korea-us-national-american-crosses-border-demilitarized-zone-dmz-tour/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=225639217

      A U.S. service member crossed into North Korea and was believed to be in the custody of the country's forces, U.S. and international officials said Tuesday. The United Nations Command, which operates the Joint Security Area (JSA) within the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea, first confirmed that an unidentified U.S. national had crossed the border.

      U.S. officials told CBS News the soldier in question was Private 2nd Class Travis King, who was being escorted back to the United States from South Korea for disciplinary reasons. After going through airport security to leave, they somehow returned and managed to join a border tour group before "willfully" crossing into North Korea, the officials said.

      "A U.S. National on a JSA orientation tour crossed, without authorization, the Military Demarcation Line into the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK)," U.N. Command said in its earlier statement, using the formal name for North Korea. "We believe he is currently in DPRK custody and are working with our KPA [North Korean army] counterparts to resolve this incident."

      Local media said the man, who was visiting the Military Demarcation Line at Panmunjom with a civilian tour group, crossed the border at 3:27 p.m. local time (2:27 a.m. Eastern).

      I'm sure that whatever discipline he was facing from the US was much harsher than what he'll experience in North Korea, right?

      CopperC Offline
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      Copper
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      @George-K said in Escaping into North Korea:

      the soldier in question was Private 2nd Class Travis King

      I expect he'll live like royalty in the North.

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        How is it that he got from the airport to the DMZ? This story makes little sense.

        And I don't think the NORKs will revere him. Far from it. They'll use him for publicity and then probably slave labor of some sort.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • taiwan_girlT Online
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          It is weird that he was able to escape from the airport after going through security.

          If he had been in South Korea for a while, he was probably familiar with tours, etc. to the DMZ, and I "suppose" he could have found a tour bus that was going there. But, like @mik said, there is a lot that does not make sense.

          However, once at the "Peace Village" not super difficult to cross to the DPRK side.

          The below pic is from the DPRK side. From the south Korea side, just step over that raised concrete "barrier" right in the middle of the blue buildings and you are in DPRK.

          079_79.JPG

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            I found out this morning that his escorts were not permitted past airport security checkpoints, so he was on his own and just walked out.

            To hell with him. Let him rot in the north. He chose it.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              I found out this morning that his escorts were not permitted past airport security checkpoints, so he was on his own and just walked out.

              To hell with him. Let him rot in the north. He chose it.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              @Mik said in Escaping into North Korea:

              Let him rot in the north.

              I don't think he's going to have an option.

              Please love yourself.

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
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                I just don't think we should make any concessions to that little tinpot dictator or his evil sister to get him back. What do we want him for?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  I just don't think we should make any concessions to that little tinpot dictator or his evil sister to get him back. What do we want him for?

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                  @Mik said in Escaping into North Korea:

                  I just don't think we should make any concessions to that little tinpot dictator or his evil sister to get him back. What do we want him for?

                  Oh I fully agree. Screw it, the mess is entirely of his own making.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Reminiscent of Bo Bergdahl. The second season of Serial made the mistake of thinking anybody cared about his story.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • taiwan_girlT Online
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                      taiwan_girl
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                      There was an interesting documentary made about one of the US soldiers that previously had defected to DPRK.

                      (I listened to a talk from the guy (Nick Bonner)who made the movie. Quite interesting.

                      "In 1962, a U.S. soldier sent to guard the peace in South Korea deserted his unit, walked across the most heavily fortified area on earth and defected to the Cold War enemy, the communist state of North Korea. He then simply disappeared from the face of the known world.

                      Dresnok became a coveted star of the North Korean propaganda machine and found fame acting in films, typecast as an evil American. He uses Korean as his daily language. He has three sons from two wives and has now lived in North Korea twice as long as he has in America. At one time, there were four Americans living in North Korea. Today, just one remains. Now, after 45 years, the story of Comrade Joe, the last American defector in North Korea, is told."

                      https://koryostudio.com/films/crossing-the-line/

                      Trailer here
                      https://vimeo.com/ondemand/crossingtheline2

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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
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                        To hell with him, too.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          Reminiscent of Bo Bergdahl. The second season of Serial made the mistake of thinking anybody cared about his story.

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                          @Horace said in Escaping into North Korea:

                          Reminiscent of Bo Bergdahl. The second season of Serial made the mistake of thinking anybody cared about his story.

                          I do feel bad for him. He was at exactly the right age and had the right kind of adolescent experiences to be completely delusional about who he was and what he was doing. But also, I'd say he more than paid for it. I don't see the point in flagellating him further.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              https://apnews.com/article/north-korea-us-soldier-border-7b0b2f3b87f4cb9352c1cc458ab576b6

                              "North Korea on Wednesday offered its first official confirmation that it had detained a U.S. soldier who bolted into its country last month, releasing a statement through its state media attributing statements to the Army private that criticized the United States. One expert called the announcement “100% North Korean propaganda.” "

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                              • MikM Away
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                                Mik
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                                Saw that. Let them keep him. He'll learn about real oppression and inequality.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Jolly
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                                  Sadly, I'm afraid many of his peers have bought into the same message...America is truly a bad place.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • taiwan_girlT Online
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                                    The U.S. soldier who sprinted into North Korea across the heavily fortified border between the Koreas two months ago was released into American custody Wednesday, according to two officials.

                                    Earlier, North Korea said it would expel Pvt. Travis King — an announcement that surprised some observers who had expected the North to drag out his detention in the hopes of squeezing concessions from Washington at a time of high tensions between the rivals.

                                    https://apnews.com/article/north-korea-us-soldier-travis-king-00c171778e378d95fe1115fe31612ec2

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      Saw that earlier. He's probably a whack and the Norks want nothing to do with him. His usefulness as a propaganda tool is probably quite limited.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Renauda
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                                        High maintenance combined with zero utility.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Away
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                                          Mik
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                                          C’mon home, dumbass.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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