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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #30

    Even now there is no chorus - at least not a tuned in chorus - calling for NATO to assist beyond hardware and technology. At the very onset however there was a loud chorus calling for NATO to establish a no-fly zone and naval blockade of Russia but it quickly went tacit, when the implications of those two acts of complex military interdiction were explicitly explained to the choir. Thus far rational minds have steered the course. I expect that to continue.

    Elbows up!

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    • RenaudaR Renauda

      Even now there is no chorus - at least not a tuned in chorus - calling for NATO to assist beyond hardware and technology. At the very onset however there was a loud chorus calling for NATO to establish a no-fly zone and naval blockade of Russia but it quickly went tacit, when the implications of those two acts of complex military interdiction were explicitly explained to the choir. Thus far rational minds have steered the course. I expect that to continue.

      HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by Horace
      #31

      @Renauda said in The Tucker Interviews:

      Even now there is no chorus - at least not a tuned in chorus - calling for NATO to assist beyond hardware and technology. At the very onset however there was a loud chorus calling for NATO to establish a no-fly zone and naval blockade of Russia but it quickly went tacit, when the implications of those two acts of complex military interdiction were explicitly explained to the choir. Thus far rational minds have steered the course. I expect that to continue.

      All of that is fine, and it implies that there should be limits to what the west will do, to keep Ukraine out of Russia's hands. That idea doesn't exist within 'whatever it takes, Russia will not win' posturing. It's nice when ideas seem calibrated, rather than fundamentalist and existential.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        @Jolly

        If European security is that vital to NATO nations - especially those on the West side of the Atlantic - you might wish to tell Mr. Trudeau to pony up his 2%.

        With all due respect let me inform you that I have written a letter or two or three or more to that effect to the PMO snd MinDef since the Chrétien era and signed numerous petitions demanding Canada at the very least meet its NATO commitments. Likewise, for the last twenty years or so, I have badgered every single federal politician who dared knock on my door begging for my vote to meet our defence commitments and spending. Conservative governments in Ottawa have been every bit as derelict as any Liberal government not just this current travesty of political irresponsibility.

        So don’t include me among the complacent.

        JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #32

        @Renauda said in The Tucker Interviews:

        @Jolly

        If European security is that vital to NATO nations - especially those on the West side of the Atlantic - you might wish to tell Mr. Trudeau to pony up his 2%.

        With all due respect let me inform you that I have written a letter or two or three or more to that effect to the PMO snd MinDef since the Chrétien era and signed numerous petitions demanding Canada at the very least meet its NATO commitments. Likewise, for the last twenty years or so, I have badgered every single federal politician who dared knock on my door begging for my vote to meet our defence commitments and spending. Conservative governments in Ottawa have been every bit as derelict as any Liberal government not just this current travesty of political irresponsibility.

        So don’t include me among the complacent.

        Then good on you. There is nothing wrong with the Canadian military. There is a problem with their funding.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @George-K said in The Tucker Interviews:

          @Horace said in The Tucker Interviews:

          Russia attacking Ukraine was not an initiation of WW3.

          What a 1930s thing to say.

          Carlson and his supporters are repeating the kind of nonsense that actually led to WW2.

          You want to be a superpower? You need to fucking act like one

          It might be worth asking the question ‘Who the heck is Tucker Carlson and why should we care what he thinks?’

          I mean, really. He’s a pudgy little twat in tweeds. Who gives a shit what he thinks?

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #33

          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Tucker Interviews:

          @George-K said in The Tucker Interviews:

          @Horace said in The Tucker Interviews:

          Russia attacking Ukraine was not an initiation of WW3.

          What a 1930s thing to say.

          Carlson and his supporters are repeating the kind of nonsense that actually led to WW2.

          You want to be a superpower? You need to fucking act like one

          It might be worth asking the question ‘Who the heck is Tucker Carlson and why should we care what he thinks?’

          I mean, really. He’s a pudgy little twat in tweeds. Who gives a shit what he thinks?

          Putin is right in one regard...Ukraine is not Poland in 1939 and the West will not view it as such.

          BTW, how did that superpower stuff work out for the UK?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @Renauda said in The Tucker Interviews:

            @Horace

            Presently, the US is acting like a responsible superpower. If you have an issue with that, make a point of voting in 2024 for a candidate with an alternative view of how a responsible superpower should act in the 21st century. There is a cornucopia of such out there.

            I'm fine with what the US has done so far. I'm not so fine with the sneering at those who question how far we are willing to go. Most people seem to believe that we need to escalate no matter what to stop Russia. Maybe that's strategic posturing. I don't hear anything about boots on the ground, even while we imply we are all for it, if it comes to that.

            I think Carlson's either/or framing of problems we could be solving in America is ridiculous. Withdrawing support from Ukraine would yield zero gains domestically on any front.

            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #34

            @Horace said in The Tucker Interviews:

            @Renauda said in The Tucker Interviews:

            @Horace

            Presently, the US is acting like a responsible superpower. If you have an issue with that, make a point of voting in 2024 for a candidate with an alternative view of how a responsible superpower should act in the 21st century. There is a cornucopia of such out there.

            I'm fine with what the US has done so far. I'm not so fine with the sneering at those who question how far we are willing to go. Most people seem to believe that we need to escalate no matter what to stop Russia. Maybe that's strategic posturing. I don't hear anything about boots on the ground, even while we imply we are all for it, if it comes to that.

            I think Carlson's either/or framing of problems we could be solving in America is ridiculous. Withdrawing support from Ukraine would yield zero gains domestically on any front.

            Again, it feels like Carlsen has an agenda.

            Sorry if that seems like sneering. We don’t actually appear to particularly disagree. What the US is currently doing makes a lot of sense. I didn’t mean to imply otherwise.

            I was only joking

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Tucker Interviews:

              @George-K said in The Tucker Interviews:

              @Horace said in The Tucker Interviews:

              Russia attacking Ukraine was not an initiation of WW3.

              What a 1930s thing to say.

              Carlson and his supporters are repeating the kind of nonsense that actually led to WW2.

              You want to be a superpower? You need to fucking act like one

              It might be worth asking the question ‘Who the heck is Tucker Carlson and why should we care what he thinks?’

              I mean, really. He’s a pudgy little twat in tweeds. Who gives a shit what he thinks?

              Putin is right in one regard...Ukraine is not Poland in 1939 and the West will not view it as such.

              BTW, how did that superpower stuff work out for the UK?

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #35

              @Jolly said in The Tucker Interviews:

              BTW, how did that superpower stuff work out for the UK?

              I didn’t mean to imply criticism of the current US response. What Carlsen is saying is something else.

              I was only joking

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              • George KG George K

                Pence give the full clip.

                "We can do it all."

                Not sure if that addresses TuCa's question, however.

                HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #36

                @George-K said in The Tucker Interviews:

                Pence give the full clip.

                "We can do it all."

                Not sure if that addresses TuCa's question, however.

                ‘Not My Concern” Narrows the GOP Field

                Education is extremely important.

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #37

                  LOL Not that the writer of the article Horace references is biased or anything

                  QUOTE
                  Let me say straight off that the biggest beneficiary was probably Tucker himself. He is a master interviewer, outgoing and friendly in manner, informed about the issues, unrelenting in his questioning. Some of his hosts at the Family Leadership Summit, which with Blaze Media sponsored the event, were so impressed with his performance that they suggested to the audience that Tucker himself should run for president. It’s an idea that has been in circulation for a while and it got a notable “trending” uptick as the evening unfolded.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    LOL Not that the writer of the article Horace references is biased or anything

                    QUOTE
                    Let me say straight off that the biggest beneficiary was probably Tucker himself. He is a master interviewer, outgoing and friendly in manner, informed about the issues, unrelenting in his questioning. Some of his hosts at the Family Leadership Summit, which with Blaze Media sponsored the event, were so impressed with his performance that they suggested to the audience that Tucker himself should run for president. It’s an idea that has been in circulation for a while and it got a notable “trending” uptick as the evening unfolded.

                    HoraceH Offline
                    HoraceH Offline
                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #38

                    @taiwan_girl said in The Tucker Interviews:

                    LOL Not that the writer of the article Horace references is biased or anything

                    Thanks for pointing out that someone posted a link to a piece written by a politically opinionated person. Without you both-sides-are-equal watchdogs on TNCR, the rest of us would be totally lost in our own echo chambers.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @taiwan_girl said in The Tucker Interviews:

                      LOL Not that the writer of the article Horace references is biased or anything

                      Thanks for pointing out that someone posted a link to a piece written by a politically opinionated person. Without you both-sides-are-equal watchdogs on TNCR, the rest of us would be totally lost in our own echo chambers.

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
                      taiwan_girlT Offline
                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #39

                      @Horace You are quite welcome! :couple_with_heart:

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