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US Marines have no Leader

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  • George KG George K

    @taiwan_girl said in US Marines have no Leader:

    Both are stupid to have said what they said.

    Agreed.

    Trump, however, explicitly said, "in times gone by." In times gone by we killed people by bleeding them (George Washington) and we burned witches. Those were wrong too.

    Hayden makes no such distinction, and for an allegedly smart man, he should know better. And Trump should have as well.

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    @George-K said in US Marines have no Leader:

    Trump, however, explicitly said, "in times gone by.

    I think you are splits hairs a bit. LOL If this was the first time he said something stupid, maybe I would say it was an "error, "didn't really mean it", "didn't mean to hit send", etc.

    But we certainly agree it was stupid by both guys. :couple_with_heart:

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      @George-K said in US Marines have no Leader:

      Trump, however, explicitly said, "in times gone by.

      I think you are splits hairs a bit. LOL If this was the first time he said something stupid, maybe I would say it was an "error, "didn't really mean it", "didn't mean to hit send", etc.

      But we certainly agree it was stupid by both guys. :couple_with_heart:

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      @taiwan_girl said in US Marines have no Leader:

      But we certainly agree it was stupid by both guys

      Precisely. One would think the former director of CIA would know better than to make comments like that about a sitting senator. One practically expects it from Trump, but when the supposed "good guys" do it....

      And, Hayden has doubled down on his comment.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #40

        In times gone by. . .
        I see no problem with beginning a statement with that.
        When I was a kid. . .
        There are starving kids in China that would gladly eat it. . .

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          https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/01/tuberville-military-promotion-hold/

          Senate Republicans erupt in anger over Tuberville’s military freeze

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            Contrary to what Sen. Tuberville had said earlier

            As the night wore on, Sullivan and Ernst — herself a former commander in the U.S. Army Reserve and Iowa Army National Guard — continued to bring up new nominations and appeared to become increasingly frustrated. They noted that they were bringing up the nominations “one by one” as Tuberville had once called for, and asked why he wouldn’t allow them to go forward. Tuberville did not answer. “I do not respect men who do not honor their word,” Ernst said at one point.

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            • George KG George K

              Will anyone respond to General Hayden's call to remove the senator from the human race so we can get going and have leadership at the Marines?

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              @George-K said in US Marines have no Leader:

              Will anyone respond to General Hayden's call to remove the senator from the human race so we can get going and have leadership at the Marines?

              Sure, let’s demote him to Non-Human Primate and make him ineligible for the office.

              They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                #44

                It really is over the top behavior which no administration could ever capitulate to.

                Normally political hostage taking involves abstractions like budgets or political posts. Who would have guessed even a decade ago that the modern GOP would insert the military in the hostage role.

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                  War eagle!

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Well, that was a waste of 10 months.

                    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/12/05/tuberville-blockade-crumbles-allowing-hundreds-of-military-officers-be-promoted-senate.html

                    More than 400 senior military officers were promoted Tuesday following months of delay after Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., ended his blockade on military confirmations without winning any change to the Pentagon abortion policy he was protesting.

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                      #47

                      List of people promoted in the afternoon promotion session.

                      https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2023/12/06/here-are-the-425-military-leaders-finally-confirmed-by-the-senate/

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                        You think it accomplished nothing?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          You think it accomplished nothing?

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                          @Jolly said in US Marines have no Leader:

                          You think it accomplished nothing?

                          From his point of view, yes, it accomplished nothing.

                          However, he did do something that is quite rare in today's political atmosphere. He managed to have a group of almost 99 senators be bipartisan against him. So, I guess we should give him credit for that. LOL

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