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US Marines have no Leader

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on last edited by
    #28

    Get rid of the rock?

    At some point, I believe, his Republic colleagues will take action against him.

    There will be some sort of "unnamed source" within the Senate Republic Party that says that the lack of movement on diplomatic and military appointments is making the US less safe, etc.

    Sen. Tuberville will release a statement that he has proven his point, and there will be some sort of token appeasement to him so that he can save face.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #29

      Maybe.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        @Jolly said in US Marines have no Leader:

        If the appointments are that damn important, strip the abortion stuff out.

        Or, flip the question. Is abortion question more important to Sen. Tuberville than not staffing important diplomatic and military posts? Should one person's contrary view speak for the majority?

        We saw the problems that happened (and continue to happen) in Niger without appointments.

        We have seen the beginnings of the same with Israel.

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        @taiwan_girl said in US Marines have no Leader:

        We saw the problems that happened (and continue to happen) in Niger without appointments.

        Not saying that having an appointed US liaison to West Africa would have prevented the coupe, it certainly would not have hurt.

        The first French soldiers left Niger on Tuesday in an overland convoy under local escort, possibly to Chad, just as the United States announced the withdrawal of its aid to the country, which has been ruled by a military regime since late July.

        And Russia looks to fill the opening...

        https://www.africanews.com/2023/10/10/niger-first-french-troops-withdraw-as-us-cuts-aid/

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        • George KG Offline
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          #31

          Will anyone respond to General Hayden's call to remove the senator from the human race so we can get going and have leadership at the Marines?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            Will anyone respond to General Hayden's call to remove the senator from the human race so we can get going and have leadership at the Marines?

            taiwan_girlT Offline
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            #32

            @George-K Maybe President Trump would do it? He did after all, call for Gen. Milley to be executed.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              #33

              Nice deflection.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                #34

                Not really. LOL

                George asked if anyone would respond to Gen Haydens call. I mentioned a potential candidate who has already expressed an interest in killing public officials.

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  Not really. LOL

                  George asked if anyone would respond to Gen Haydens call. I mentioned a potential candidate who has already expressed an interest in killing public officials.

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                  George K
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                  #35

                  @taiwan_girl said in US Marines have no Leader:

                  . I mentioned a potential candidate who has already expressed an interest in killing public officials.

                  Can you point to where he said that?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
                    #36

                    Donald Trump, on his social-media network, Truth Social, wrote that Mark Milley’s phone call to reassure China in the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol on January 6, 2021, was “an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH.

                    I am corrected, he did not specifically say he would kill him, but to me, there does not seem to be a whole lot of difference between this and what Gen Hayden said.

                    Both are stupid to have said what they said.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      Donald Trump, on his social-media network, Truth Social, wrote that Mark Milley’s phone call to reassure China in the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol on January 6, 2021, was “an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH.

                      I am corrected, he did not specifically say he would kill him, but to me, there does not seem to be a whole lot of difference between this and what Gen Hayden said.

                      Both are stupid to have said what they said.

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                      George K
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                      #37

                      @taiwan_girl said in US Marines have no Leader:

                      Both are stupid to have said what they said.

                      Agreed.

                      Trump, however, explicitly said, "in times gone by." In times gone by we killed people by bleeding them (George Washington) and we burned witches. Those were wrong too.

                      Hayden makes no such distinction, and for an allegedly smart man, he should know better. And Trump should have as well.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @taiwan_girl said in US Marines have no Leader:

                        Both are stupid to have said what they said.

                        Agreed.

                        Trump, however, explicitly said, "in times gone by." In times gone by we killed people by bleeding them (George Washington) and we burned witches. Those were wrong too.

                        Hayden makes no such distinction, and for an allegedly smart man, he should know better. And Trump should have as well.

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                        @George-K said in US Marines have no Leader:

                        Trump, however, explicitly said, "in times gone by.

                        I think you are splits hairs a bit. LOL If this was the first time he said something stupid, maybe I would say it was an "error, "didn't really mean it", "didn't mean to hit send", etc.

                        But we certainly agree it was stupid by both guys. :couple_with_heart:

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          @George-K said in US Marines have no Leader:

                          Trump, however, explicitly said, "in times gone by.

                          I think you are splits hairs a bit. LOL If this was the first time he said something stupid, maybe I would say it was an "error, "didn't really mean it", "didn't mean to hit send", etc.

                          But we certainly agree it was stupid by both guys. :couple_with_heart:

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                          @taiwan_girl said in US Marines have no Leader:

                          But we certainly agree it was stupid by both guys

                          Precisely. One would think the former director of CIA would know better than to make comments like that about a sitting senator. One practically expects it from Trump, but when the supposed "good guys" do it....

                          And, Hayden has doubled down on his comment.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Rainman
                            wrote on last edited by Rainman
                            #40

                            In times gone by. . .
                            I see no problem with beginning a statement with that.
                            When I was a kid. . .
                            There are starving kids in China that would gladly eat it. . .

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                              https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/01/tuberville-military-promotion-hold/

                              Senate Republicans erupt in anger over Tuberville’s military freeze

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                                Contrary to what Sen. Tuberville had said earlier

                                As the night wore on, Sullivan and Ernst — herself a former commander in the U.S. Army Reserve and Iowa Army National Guard — continued to bring up new nominations and appeared to become increasingly frustrated. They noted that they were bringing up the nominations “one by one” as Tuberville had once called for, and asked why he wouldn’t allow them to go forward. Tuberville did not answer. “I do not respect men who do not honor their word,” Ernst said at one point.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  Will anyone respond to General Hayden's call to remove the senator from the human race so we can get going and have leadership at the Marines?

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #43

                                  @George-K said in US Marines have no Leader:

                                  Will anyone respond to General Hayden's call to remove the senator from the human race so we can get going and have leadership at the Marines?

                                  Sure, let’s demote him to Non-Human Primate and make him ineligible for the office.

                                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                    #44

                                    It really is over the top behavior which no administration could ever capitulate to.

                                    Normally political hostage taking involves abstractions like budgets or political posts. Who would have guessed even a decade ago that the modern GOP would insert the military in the hostage role.

                                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                      War eagle!

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Well, that was a waste of 10 months.

                                        https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/12/05/tuberville-blockade-crumbles-allowing-hundreds-of-military-officers-be-promoted-senate.html

                                        More than 400 senior military officers were promoted Tuesday following months of delay after Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., ended his blockade on military confirmations without winning any change to the Pentagon abortion policy he was protesting.

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                                          List of people promoted in the afternoon promotion session.

                                          https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2023/12/06/here-are-the-425-military-leaders-finally-confirmed-by-the-senate/

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