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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #6

    Remember when Crowder walked into a Mohammeden bakery and was refused a gay wedding cake? It's a shame that a (real) gay couple didn't try that and sue.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #7

      Amen.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          The Wise Latina:

          "A social system of discrimination created an environment in which LGBT people were unsafe. Who could forget the brutal murder of Matthew Shepard? Matthew was targeted by two men, tortured, tied to a buck fence, and left to die for who he was. See K. Drake, Gay Man Beaten, Burned and Left Tied to Fence, Casper Star-Tribune, Oct. 10, 1998, p.A1. Or the Pulse nightclub massacre, the second-deadliest mass shooting in U. S. history? See S. Stolberg, For Gays Across America, a Massacre Punctuates Fitful Gains, N. Y. Times, June 13, 2016, p. A1."

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/the-truth-behind-americas-most-famous-gay-hate-murder-matthew-shepard

          Matthew’s tragedy began long before the night he was killed.
          Jimenez found that Matthew was addicted to and dealing crystal meth and had dabbled in heroin. He also took significant sexual risks and was being pimped alongside Aaron McKinney, one of his killers, with whom he’d had occasional sexual encounters. He was HIV positive at the time of his death.

          https://theintercept.com/2018/03/05/as-the-trial-of-omar-mateens-wife-begins-new-evidence-undermines-beliefs-about-the-pulse-massacre-including-motive/

          In particular, Mateen went to Pulse only after having scouted other venues that night that were wholly unrelated to the LGBT community, only to find that they were too defended by armed guards and police, and ultimately chose Pulse only after a generic Google search for “Orlando nightclubs” — not “gay clubs” — produced Pulse as the first search result.

          Several journalists closely covering the Mateen investigation have, for some time now, noted the complete absence of any evidence suggesting that Mateen knew that Pulse was a gay club or that targeting the LGBT community was part of his motive. These doubts have been strongly fortified by the new facts, previously under seal, that were revealed by today’s court filing.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • HoraceH Online
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            Horace
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            #10

            So between the wise black woman and the wise latina woman, we have four or five demonstrably disingenuous anecdotes that form the foundation of their "constitutional" opinions.

            Anybody who thinks the court is politicized in favor of conservatism, dismisses themselves from the realm of serious thinkers on the subject. Until they can produce equal disingenuousness in any conservative justice's written opinions. Which they won't be able to.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
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              #11

              https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/jun/29/supreme-court-lgbtq-document-veracity-colorado?ref=upstract.com

              Not that it really matters (I dont think), but the couple that supposedly started the case are probably fake. LOL

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              • JonJ Offline
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                Jon
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                Yes that’s very curious.

                It’s worth noting that he didn’t come forward and say “wait…. This isn’t real”, rather, some intrepid reporter contacted him before the case was decided to get his ‘pre-action’ and he’s like ‘What (and I cannot stress this enough) The Fuck?”

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #13

                  But evidently they knew it wasn’t real over a year ago.

                  @Jon supposedly he didn’t know his name was even involved. I can see that. Not everybody follows every news story…

                  The Brad

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                  • George KG George K

                    The Wise Latina:

                    "A social system of discrimination created an environment in which LGBT people were unsafe. Who could forget the brutal murder of Matthew Shepard? Matthew was targeted by two men, tortured, tied to a buck fence, and left to die for who he was. See K. Drake, Gay Man Beaten, Burned and Left Tied to Fence, Casper Star-Tribune, Oct. 10, 1998, p.A1. Or the Pulse nightclub massacre, the second-deadliest mass shooting in U. S. history? See S. Stolberg, For Gays Across America, a Massacre Punctuates Fitful Gains, N. Y. Times, June 13, 2016, p. A1."

                    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/the-truth-behind-americas-most-famous-gay-hate-murder-matthew-shepard

                    Matthew’s tragedy began long before the night he was killed.
                    Jimenez found that Matthew was addicted to and dealing crystal meth and had dabbled in heroin. He also took significant sexual risks and was being pimped alongside Aaron McKinney, one of his killers, with whom he’d had occasional sexual encounters. He was HIV positive at the time of his death.

                    https://theintercept.com/2018/03/05/as-the-trial-of-omar-mateens-wife-begins-new-evidence-undermines-beliefs-about-the-pulse-massacre-including-motive/

                    In particular, Mateen went to Pulse only after having scouted other venues that night that were wholly unrelated to the LGBT community, only to find that they were too defended by armed guards and police, and ultimately chose Pulse only after a generic Google search for “Orlando nightclubs” — not “gay clubs” — produced Pulse as the first search result.

                    Several journalists closely covering the Mateen investigation have, for some time now, noted the complete absence of any evidence suggesting that Mateen knew that Pulse was a gay club or that targeting the LGBT community was part of his motive. These doubts have been strongly fortified by the new facts, previously under seal, that were revealed by today’s court filing.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    @George-K said in Friday SCOTUS II - LGBTQ Web Designer:

                    The Wise Latina:

                    "A social system of discrimination created an environment in which LGBT people were unsafe. Who could forget the brutal murder of Matthew Shepard? Matthew was targeted by two men, tortured, tied to a buck fence, and left to die for who he was. See K. Drake, Gay Man Beaten, Burned and Left Tied to Fence, Casper Star-Tribune, Oct. 10, 1998, p.A1. Or the Pulse nightclub massacre, the second-deadliest mass shooting in U. S. history? See S. Stolberg, For Gays Across America, a Massacre Punctuates Fitful Gains, N. Y. Times, June 13, 2016, p. A1."

                    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/the-truth-behind-americas-most-famous-gay-hate-murder-matthew-shepard

                    Matthew’s tragedy began long before the night he was killed.
                    Jimenez found that Matthew was addicted to and dealing crystal meth and had dabbled in heroin. He also took significant sexual risks and was being pimped alongside Aaron McKinney, one of his killers, with whom he’d had occasional sexual encounters. He was HIV positive at the time of his death.

                    https://theintercept.com/2018/03/05/as-the-trial-of-omar-mateens-wife-begins-new-evidence-undermines-beliefs-about-the-pulse-massacre-including-motive/

                    In particular, Mateen went to Pulse only after having scouted other venues that night that were wholly unrelated to the LGBT community, only to find that they were too defended by armed guards and police, and ultimately chose Pulse only after a generic Google search for “Orlando nightclubs” — not “gay clubs” — produced Pulse as the first search result.

                    Several journalists closely covering the Mateen investigation have, for some time now, noted the complete absence of any evidence suggesting that Mateen knew that Pulse was a gay club or that targeting the LGBT community was part of his motive. These doubts have been strongly fortified by the new facts, previously under seal, that were revealed by today’s court filing.

                    Damn…

                    https://babylonbee.com/news/inspiring-sotomayor-shows-world-illiteracy-doesnt-have-to-stop-you-from-achieving-your-dreams

                    WASHINGTON, D.C — In a stunning display of determination and perseverance, Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor has shown the world that illiteracy is no match for ambition and dreams. Justice Sotomayor has defied the odds and reached the pinnacle of her profession, all without being able to read a single word.

                    "I just hope that my story can be used to inspire other little girls out there who can't read," said Justice Sotomayor with a tear in her eye. "Just because you can't make it through 'Hop On Pop' doesn't mean there's not a place for you on the highest court in the land."Though naysayers tried to tell Ms. Sotomayor that being a judge required some degree of literacy, she refused to take "no" for an answer. "I never let the doubters hold me down," said Ms. Sotomayor. "They said I'd never be a judge without being able to read what the law says. Well, guess what? I can't even read the menu at Starbucks, much less the Constitution - but here I am, banging a gavel on the highest Court in America. Reach for the stars!"

                    Other lawyers have called her complete lack of knowledge a breath of fresh air in an otherwise stuffy profession. "You see this woman having her dissent delayed because she accidentally glued her hands together, and it just makes her so approachable," said attorney Ken Tarleton. "Her story gives people hope. I have a blind nephew who says she has given him the inspiration to become a surgeon. Incredible stuff."

                    At publishing time, Justice Thomas had graciously purchased Ms. Sotomayor the complete set of "Hooked On Phonics".

                    The Brad

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                    • HoraceH Online
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                      Horace
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                      #15

                      The Democrat playbook of putting disingenuous and downright dumb females of color into positions of power, probably does a lot to propagate racism and sexism. It’s sad because there are plenty of reasonable females of color. They’re just not the ones the left promotes.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #17

                          Mic drop

                          The Brad

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                          • JonJ Offline
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                            Jon
                            wrote on last edited by Jon
                            #18

                            Except it’s totally asinine. His beef is with the majority of the legislators. That set isn’t watching his movie. The NC folks that would go to it he has no beef with.

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                              Copper
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                              I guess the assumption is

                              Tickets sold in NC < Tickets sold to support his virtue (due in part to this publicity)

                              Either way it is asinine.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                By the way, that tweet, and the response are quite old...

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
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                                  Is this a thing?

                                  Man cited in Supreme Court LGBTQ rights case says he was never involved

                                  On Friday, the Supreme Court ruled 6-to-3 in favor of a Christian graphic artist in Littleton, Colo., who argued that free speech protections allowed her to refuse to design wedding websites for same-sex couples.
                                  Lorie Smith filed her initial case to Colorado district court in 2016, arguing that the state’s anti-discrimination law prevented her from including a message on the webpage for her company, 303 Creative, stating that she would not create wedding websites for gay couples.
                                  In subsequent court documents, her lawyers cited a query that they said was sent by an individual named Stewart with contact information that matches the person The Post interviewed. The request asked for Smith’s services for Stewart’s forthcoming wedding to a person named “Mike.”
                                  “We are getting married early next year and would love some design work done for our invites, placenames etc. We might also stretch to a website,” the message cited in the case read.
                                  However, Stewart told The Post he had never contacted Smith.
                                  Smith also cited the request in court documents as her case progressed to the Supreme Court. But the high court didn’t require that Smith had received a real request from “Stewart & Mike” or anyone else. Smith filed a “pre-enforcement challenge” to the Colorado statute because state would have probably moved against her if she had posted a statement about her intention to refuse service to same-sex couples on her website.
                                  Justice Neil M. Gorsuch, writing for the majority, said a lower court found that a reasonable assumption because of Colorado’s actions in other cases regarding same-sex marriages. On the merits, the court majority said the state of Colorado could not compel her to design any such site because it would “force her to convey messages inconsistent with her belief that marriage should be reserved to unions between one man and one woman.”
                                  Even if the existence of Stewart’s request wasn’t real, the justices did not seem to regard it as legally relevant to considering Smith’s case. The justices who disagreed didn’t raise it as an issue. Writing for the dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor said the court was denying protection for LGBTQ+ people. “The opinion of the court is, quite literally, a notice that reads: ‘Some services may be denied to same-sex couples.’”
                                  The court filing in Stewart’s name has left many baffled, including Stewart himself, who said he was concerned that the case had proceeded without anyone verifying if the request was authentic.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG Offline
                                    George KG Offline
                                    George K
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                                    #22

                                    No. That's kind of the point.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      Wow, even I can see these lefties are freaking dumb. And I'm a freaking lefty!

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • HoraceH Online
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                                        The algorithm in a lefty’s mind is, can I see an evil side of a situation? That’s the conservative side. Mr Franken seems to have found a bug in his programming.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          George K
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                                          Colorado to pay Smith's legal fees.

                                          https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/colorado-pay-web-designers-legal-fees-after-losing-lgbtq-anti-bias-law-case-2024-09-30/

                                          The state of Colorado has agreed to pay more than $1.5 million in legal fees to a web designer who won a U.S. Supreme Court ruling last year that the right to free speech allows some businesses to refuse to provide services for same-sex weddings.
                                          Colorado and web designer Lorie Smith's lawyers at conservative law firm Alliance Defending Freedom disclosed the accord in a court filing last week.
                                          A state board approved the amount, which was less than the nearly $2 million that Smith had originally sought after her free speech win at the high court. The justices in June 2023 ruled 6-3 in favor of Smith, who cited her Christian beliefs in challenging a state anti-discrimination law.
                                          The Colorado attorney general’s office declined to comment on the fee settlement.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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