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  • George KG George K

    The Washington Post carries water:


    Inflation has fallen. Why are groceries still so expensive?

    Americans are finally getting a break from inflation, with prices for gasoline, used cars and health insurance all falling over the past year, relieving families and buoying President Biden’s 2024 reelection bid. But prices painfully remain high for one particularly frequent purchase: groceries.

    Grocery prices have jumped by 25 percent over the past four years, outpacing overall inflation of 19 percent during the same period. And while prices of appliances, smartphones and a smattering of other goods have declined, groceries got slightly more expensive last year, with particularly sharp jumps for beef, sugar and juice, among other items.

    Stubbornly high grocery prices represent a critical drain on the finances of tens of millions of people and remain, along with housing, perhaps the most persistent economic challenge for the Biden administration as it tries to convince Americans the economy is back on solid footing. For all the attention on gas prices and housing, more than two-thirds of voters say inflation has hit them hardest through higher food prices, according to a November 2023 survey by Yahoo Finance/Ipsos. That’s more than 50 percentage points higher than any other category.


    "Inflation has fallen."

    No, the rate of inflation has slowed. There's a difference. Is the price of gas lower than it was last year? Yeah. Now go back 3 years, and get back to me.

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    LuFins Dad
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    #40

    @George-K said in Bidenomics:

    The Washington Post carries water:


    Inflation has fallen. Why are groceries still so expensive?

    Americans are finally getting a break from inflation, with prices for gasoline, used cars and health insurance all falling over the past year, relieving families and buoying President Biden’s 2024 reelection bid. But prices painfully remain high for one particularly frequent purchase: groceries.

    Grocery prices have jumped by 25 percent over the past four years, outpacing overall inflation of 19 percent during the same period. And while prices of appliances, smartphones and a smattering of other goods have declined, groceries got slightly more expensive last year, with particularly sharp jumps for beef, sugar and juice, among other items.

    Stubbornly high grocery prices represent a critical drain on the finances of tens of millions of people and remain, along with housing, perhaps the most persistent economic challenge for the Biden administration as it tries to convince Americans the economy is back on solid footing. For all the attention on gas prices and housing, more than two-thirds of voters say inflation has hit them hardest through higher food prices, according to a November 2023 survey by Yahoo Finance/Ipsos. That’s more than 50 percentage points higher than any other category.


    "Inflation has fallen."

    No, the rate of inflation has slowed. There's a difference. Is the price of gas lower than it was last year? Yeah. Now go back 3 years, and get back to me.

    In 2020 we were offered a subscription to WaPo through our Prime membership for $3.99 per month. Now the price is $7.99 per month. The expected costs by the end of the year is $11.99 per month.

    The Brad

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #41

      But it's worth $96 a year more to see where democracy dies, right?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #42

        I’m also pretty sure that rent, real estate prices, and mortgage rates are still up there too…

        The Brad

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #43

          Suckers...

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-takes-aim-at-grocery-stores-for-ripping-people-off-amid-continued-high-prices-played-for-suckers/ar-BB1hErFO

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #44

            "The cost of eggs, milk, chicken, gas,

            Eggs - (granted, they aren’t as high as they were during the insane spike last year, but they are still up 63% from when he took office, and are rising over the last several months. alt text

            Milk - alt text

            Chicken -alt text

            Gas - https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=1fpMT

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #45

              This is extremely dangerous rhetoric

              The Brad

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #46

                And it costs you about twice as much (per month) to buy a "starter" home.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  This is extremely dangerous rhetoric

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  #47

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics:

                  This is extremely dangerous rhetoric

                  The Biden speech?

                  How so?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #48

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #49

                      But Goerge, companies lay off people all the time, even when the economy is going up.

                      https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/01/07/these-25-companies-laid-off-workers-in-2019.aspx

                      Ford
                      Disney
                      Lowes
                      Tesla (7% of workers)
                      HBSC (12%)
                      HP (15%)
                      etc etc

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                        George K
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                        #50

                        The Harpy from Mass opines.

                        See, inflation isn't bad, it's just that the products are getting smaller because of the greedy corporations.

                        Nice "scare-zooms" in the video BTW.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Jolly
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                          #51

                          She's just following Biden's speech from this week.

                          Same message.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #52

                            Lemme see if I'm getting this right.

                            Biden is complaining about inflation?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              #53

                              Those greedy and evil Jews merchants!

                              The Brad

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #54

                                There’s no “fooling” going on. It’s an attempt to keep prices down.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #55

                                  I don't think a lot of folks are buying the sudden worry about chip bags and ice cream cartons.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by Mik
                                    #56

                                    I wouldn’t buy her saying water is wet. She’s the prime example of my theory of two kinds of people. One tells you it’s raining and you just think “oh, it’s raining”. Then there’s the other type who tells you the same thing and you ask yourself why they would want it to be raining.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by George K
                                      #57

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #58

                                        Bidenomics, FTW!

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #59

                                          @George-K How is this calculated?

                                          3M annualized CPI 4%, up from 3.3%
                                          6M annualized CPI 3.7%, up from 3.2%

                                          For example
                                          Jul 23 - 3.2
                                          Aug 23 - 3.7
                                          Sep 23 - 3.7
                                          OCt 23 - 3.2
                                          Nov 23 - 3.1
                                          Dec 23 - 3.4
                                          Jan 24 - 3.1

                                          https://www.statista.com/statistics/273418/unadjusted-monthly-inflation-rate-in-the-us/

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