"Not protected hate speech"
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wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 01:31 last edited by
Professor Greenfield probably didn't go to school the day they taught the First Amendment.
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wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 01:56 last edited by
It would be better to find an appropriate legal response.
Would taking their photographs and putting them up all over town be considered unconstitutional? Some of them might have paid jobs, after all.
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It would be better to find an appropriate legal response.
Would taking their photographs and putting them up all over town be considered unconstitutional? Some of them might have paid jobs, after all.
wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 02:02 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in "Not protected hate speech":
Would taking their photographs and putting them up all over town be considered unconstitutional? Some of them might have paid jobs, after all.
Interesting question.
AFAIK, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy if you're outdoors.
Have at it, and then watch what happens should they get fired.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in "Not protected hate speech":
Would taking their photographs and putting them up all over town be considered unconstitutional? Some of them might have paid jobs, after all.
Interesting question.
AFAIK, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy if you're outdoors.
Have at it, and then watch what happens should they get fired.
wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 02:18 last edited by@George-K said in "Not protected hate speech":
@Doctor-Phibes said in "Not protected hate speech":
Would taking their photographs and putting them up all over town be considered unconstitutional? Some of them might have paid jobs, after all.
Interesting question.
AFAIK, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy if you're outdoors.
Have at it, and then watch what happens should they get fired.
Ostracized would be good enough. Their lives could be made quite a bit more miserable than the people they wanted to insult.
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@George-K said in "Not protected hate speech":
@Doctor-Phibes said in "Not protected hate speech":
Would taking their photographs and putting them up all over town be considered unconstitutional? Some of them might have paid jobs, after all.
Interesting question.
AFAIK, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy if you're outdoors.
Have at it, and then watch what happens should they get fired.
Ostracized would be good enough. Their lives could be made quite a bit more miserable than the people they wanted to insult.
wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 02:21 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in "Not protected hate speech":
Ostracized would be good enough. Their lives could be made quite a bit more miserable than the people they wanted to insult.
Absolutely. The right to free speech includes the responsibility for dealing with the repercussions thereof.
As long as it's not illegal, go for it.
That said, I can see some asshole doxxing or SWATing these clowns.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in "Not protected hate speech":
Ostracized would be good enough. Their lives could be made quite a bit more miserable than the people they wanted to insult.
Absolutely. The right to free speech includes the responsibility for dealing with the repercussions thereof.
As long as it's not illegal, go for it.
That said, I can see some asshole doxxing or SWATing these clowns.
wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 02:22 last edited by Doctor Phibes@George-K said in "Not protected hate speech":
That said, I can see some asshole doxxing or SWATing these clowns.
That's pretty much inevitable if you stick photos of them up all over town. Personally speaking, I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.
Just how dumb do you have to be to think that Hitler had the right idea at this point in history? I'm not sure that level of idiocy is actually measurable.
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@George-K said in "Not protected hate speech":
That said, I can see some asshole doxxing or SWATing these clowns.
That's pretty much inevitable if you stick photos of them up all over town. Personally speaking, I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.
Just how dumb do you have to be to think that Hitler had the right idea at this point in history? I'm not sure that level of idiocy is actually measurable.
wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 02:28 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in "Not protected hate speech":
Just how dumb do you have to be to think that Hitler had the right idea at this point in history? I'm not sure that level of idiocy is actually measurable.
No one, afaik, is saying that. Well, maybe someone is - but not me.
The point, which I appear to be failing to make, is that this attorney has no concept of what the First Amendment states.
Or for that matter what SCOTUS declared in the Skokie case.
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wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 02:47 last edited by Horace
Naziism is wrong, IMO. I don't know what percentage of Americans are Nazis, but I doubt it's very high. Maybe 25% at most. Basically the right-most half of the Republican party.
But IMO 25% Nazis, is too many Nazis. I'm sorry if that offends anybody.
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wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 03:11 last edited by
Nonetheless, one has the right to believe and express those positions, abhorrent as they may be. It’s the price we pay for a free society.
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wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 10:28 last edited by Doctor Phibes
I understood your point, George. I’m just left a little mystified by people actually doing this. I guess they could conceivably be trolling, it's just a bizarre thing to do. The Twitterati seem to think it's staged, but if you were going to stage it, surely you'd make them look less sad and lonely.
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wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 12:37 last edited by
It's their right.
OTOH, if the members of that synagogue decide to kick their ass, I'm sure the town has ordinances against excessive noise, creating a disturbance, etc. Fines should be stiff- at least $50 - and maybe a day of community service some Sunday...
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It's their right.
OTOH, if the members of that synagogue decide to kick their ass, I'm sure the town has ordinances against excessive noise, creating a disturbance, etc. Fines should be stiff- at least $50 - and maybe a day of community service some Sunday...
wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 12:39 last edited by@Jolly said in "Not protected hate speech":
and maybe a day of community service some
SundayShabbos...FIFY
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wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 12:57 last edited by
Surely there are better ways to make them look even more stupid. Remember that guy playing the tuba?
https://www.wqxr.org/story/video-tuba-mocks-white-supremicists-ride-valkyries/
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wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 13:04 last edited by
That’s brilliant
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wrote on 26 Jun 2023, 15:41 last edited by
Police MUST arrest these bigots and let them appeal their case to a higher court.
There are a lot of people in this country who feel exactly this way about Mr. Trump.
The speech has to be protected.
The relative virtue of the speech is open to criticism.
