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    Larry
    wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 23:25 last edited by
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    The Left/democrats have always been the racists.

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    • C Catseye3
      17 Jul 2020, 22:57

      "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

      Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 00:11 last edited by
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      @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

      "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

      Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

      Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why? It was perfect and needs to be shared far and wide, IMO. It makes perfect sense that the graphic was based on research by a white millennial.

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        Horace
        wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 00:39 last edited by
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        Cats often expresses her desire for the world to shut up about certain things.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Catseye3
          wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 00:41 last edited by
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          I do? Really?

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • L LuFins Dad
            18 Jul 2020, 00:11

            @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

            "[T]he worst thing is that this garbage is almost designed to make race relations worse." No duh?

            Can't really articulate why, but I feel like this whole essay should not have been written.

            Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why? It was perfect and needs to be shared far and wide, IMO. It makes perfect sense that the graphic was based on research by a white millennial.

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 09:11 last edited by Catseye3
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            @LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":

            Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why?

            I don't mean the subject shouldn't be written about. I said I couldn't articulate my reasons for saying what I did about this particular piece, and I still can't. Something to do with the very obviousness of his message being insulting to both races.

            One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • C Catseye3
              18 Jul 2020, 09:11

              @LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":

              Goldberg’s essay shouldn’t have been written? Why?

              I don't mean the subject shouldn't be written about. I said I couldn't articulate my reasons for saying what I did about this particular piece, and I still can't. Something to do with the very obviousness of his message being insulting to both races.

              One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 11:58 last edited by
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              @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

              One commenter said: "I also think featuring [the graphic] and then spending multiple paragraphs dunking on it is choosing to engage with a very bad and dumb version of progressive anti-racist ideology." This sort of gets at what I mean.

              If this was some stupid meme posted to Facebook, sure. If this was on a pamphlet circulated by some millennials, maybe. This was created, approved, and published by The Smithsonian. The research it was based on was generated by one of the most prominent activists on social justice in the US. This isn’t some out there group, this was the freaking Smithsonian.

              The Brad

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                Catseye3
                wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 12:05 last edited by
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                I don't say it was awful. I just think it could have been, I don't know, more substantive maybe? Maybe readers of material put out by the Smithsonian could be thought to grok weightier stuff?

                We'll just have to disagree on this one, LuFin.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 13:32 last edited by
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                  If you view it as an honest mistake then you didn't understand the graphic.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • A Aqua Letifer
                    18 Jul 2020, 13:32

                    If you view it as an honest mistake then you didn't understand the graphic.

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 15:13 last edited by
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                    If you view it as an honest mistake then you didn't understand the graphic.

                    You always expect some to get carried away by a cause, but letting this actually get published is quite telling.

                    Props for pulling back though. There is hope.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 16:59 last edited by
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                      This is why you don't create museums based on skin color.

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