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Scarlatti and Me

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    What’s your favorite one?

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      I've mentioned before that I started going through the Scarlatti sonatas as daily sight reading exercise.

      I started in early 2018. As of today, I'm done. All 562.

      562 you ask?

      I did the 545 catalogued by Longo, added the 10 more that Kilpatrick found (getting to 555), played the one discovered in the Morgan Library ('Cary 703'), and the 6 recently found in the Cathedral of Zaragosa by Yañez.

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      @jon-nyc Will you post the audio? 😀

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        I've mentioned before that I started going through the Scarlatti sonatas as daily sight reading exercise.

        I started in early 2018. As of today, I'm done. All 562.

        562 you ask?

        I did the 545 catalogued by Longo, added the 10 more that Kilpatrick found (getting to 555), played the one discovered in the Morgan Library ('Cary 703'), and the 6 recently found in the Cathedral of Zaragosa by Yañez.

        IMG_8243.jpg

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        @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

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        • KlausK Klaus

          What’s your favorite one?

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          @Klaus said in Scarlatti and Me:

          What’s your favorite one?

          I still like k87 and k54. But those were my favorite before all this.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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            @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

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            @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

            @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

            Yes I do. I have his Godowsky-Chopin etudes. Though you have to listen to them before you’ve heard Hamelin play them.

            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              Nice, Jon.

              Next step: memorization

              Final: Jon performs The Ring all Scarlatti sonatas from memory.

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              @Rainman said in Scarlatti and Me:

              Nice, Jon.

              Next step: memorization

              Once at the end of a calendar year there was a thread at PW asking people what their musical plans were for the new year. I said “finish memorizing the Scarlatti sonatas”.

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

                @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

                Yes I do. I have his Godowsky-Chopin etudes. Though you have to listen to them before you’ve heard Hamelin play them.

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                @jon-nyc I still love Horowitz Plays Scarlatti (RCA). I always thought his style was unparalleled.

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                  I have the CD.

                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I have the CD.

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                    @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

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                      @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

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                      @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

                      @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

                      Yes! THey're good sight-reading material, indeed, if taken slowly.

                      So are the slow movements from the Mozart sonatas, but @jon-nyc won't go there, amirite?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        @jon-nyc That is awesome that you did that.

                        Did you notice improvement in your playing/site reading after this?

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                          Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Scarlatti and Me:

                            Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

                            Jon, it really is great you tackled all the Scarlatti.
                            But staying true to form, I'll continue to help:

                            If you ever do perform them, I hope you explain who Kilpatrick was. I've never heard of him. Maybe just go by "Ralph K."(?)

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

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                              @jon-nyc I stumbled on this documentary. Worth watching

                              Link to video

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                                Thanks I’ll check it out

                                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                  Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                  (asking for Aqua)

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    that pianist must be the most accomplished hipster ever.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                      (asking for Aqua)

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                                      @George-K said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                      Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                      (asking for Aqua)

                                      Depends on whether they are the subject or object which I left ambiguous

                                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                        @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                        @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

                                        Yes! THey're good sight-reading material, indeed, if taken slowly.

                                        So are the slow movements from the Mozart sonatas, but @jon-nyc won't go there, amirite?

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                                        @George-K said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                        @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                        @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

                                        Yes! THey're good sight-reading material, indeed, if taken slowly.

                                        Really? I'd say they are one league up in terms of difficulty compared to most Scarlatti sonatas.

                                        I personally use Opus Clavicembalisticum for sight-reading practice.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @George-K said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                          Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                          (asking for Aqua)

                                          Depends on whether they are the subject or object which I left ambiguous

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                          @George-K said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                          Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                          (asking for Aqua)

                                          Depends on whether they are the subject or object which I left ambiguous

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