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  • RainmanR Rainman

    Nice, Jon.

    Next step: memorization

    Final: Jon performs The Ring all Scarlatti sonatas from memory.

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    @Rainman said in Scarlatti and Me:

    Nice, Jon.

    Next step: memorization

    Final: Jon performs The Ring all Scarlatti sonatas from memory.

    I was going to make some kind of smart-assed comment along those lines, but, @Rainman , yours is better, by far, than anything I could have come up with.

    Bravo!

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      What’s your favorite one?

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        I've mentioned before that I started going through the Scarlatti sonatas as daily sight reading exercise.

        I started in early 2018. As of today, I'm done. All 562.

        562 you ask?

        I did the 545 catalogued by Longo, added the 10 more that Kilpatrick found (getting to 555), played the one discovered in the Morgan Library ('Cary 703'), and the 6 recently found in the Cathedral of Zaragosa by Yañez.

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        @jon-nyc Will you post the audio? 😀

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          I've mentioned before that I started going through the Scarlatti sonatas as daily sight reading exercise.

          I started in early 2018. As of today, I'm done. All 562.

          562 you ask?

          I did the 545 catalogued by Longo, added the 10 more that Kilpatrick found (getting to 555), played the one discovered in the Morgan Library ('Cary 703'), and the 6 recently found in the Cathedral of Zaragosa by Yañez.

          IMG_8243.jpg

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          @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

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          • KlausK Klaus

            What’s your favorite one?

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            @Klaus said in Scarlatti and Me:

            What’s your favorite one?

            I still like k87 and k54. But those were my favorite before all this.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

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              @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

              @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

              Yes I do. I have his Godowsky-Chopin etudes. Though you have to listen to them before you’ve heard Hamelin play them.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • RainmanR Rainman

                Nice, Jon.

                Next step: memorization

                Final: Jon performs The Ring all Scarlatti sonatas from memory.

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                @Rainman said in Scarlatti and Me:

                Nice, Jon.

                Next step: memorization

                Once at the end of a calendar year there was a thread at PW asking people what their musical plans were for the new year. I said “finish memorizing the Scarlatti sonatas”.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

                  @jon-nyc Know this guy? Carlo Grante I bought a couple of the volumes. Nice playing.

                  Yes I do. I have his Godowsky-Chopin etudes. Though you have to listen to them before you’ve heard Hamelin play them.

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                  @jon-nyc I still love Horowitz Plays Scarlatti (RCA). I always thought his style was unparalleled.

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                    I have the CD.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I have the CD.

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                      @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

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                        @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

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                        @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

                        @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

                        Yes! THey're good sight-reading material, indeed, if taken slowly.

                        So are the slow movements from the Mozart sonatas, but @jon-nyc won't go there, amirite?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          @jon-nyc That is awesome that you did that.

                          Did you notice improvement in your playing/site reading after this?

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                            Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Scarlatti and Me:

                              Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

                              Jon, it really is great you tackled all the Scarlatti.
                              But staying true to form, I'll continue to help:

                              If you ever do perform them, I hope you explain who Kilpatrick was. I've never heard of him. Maybe just go by "Ralph K."(?)

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Oh yeah. Sight reading is much better though I still have a long way to go.

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                                @jon-nyc I stumbled on this documentary. Worth watching

                                Link to video

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                                  Thanks I’ll check it out

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                    (asking for Aqua)

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      that pianist must be the most accomplished hipster ever.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                        (asking for Aqua)

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                                        @George-K said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                        Oh, by the way, shouldn't it be "Scarlatti and I?"

                                        (asking for Aqua)

                                        Depends on whether they are the subject or object which I left ambiguous

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                          @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

                                          Yes! THey're good sight-reading material, indeed, if taken slowly.

                                          So are the slow movements from the Mozart sonatas, but @jon-nyc won't go there, amirite?

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                                          @George-K said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                          @SD-Tav said in Scarlatti and Me:

                                          @jon-nyc Suggestion for a new project: read through all of the Haydn Sonatas. Many little-known gems. Over 50 to survey!

                                          Yes! THey're good sight-reading material, indeed, if taken slowly.

                                          Really? I'd say they are one league up in terms of difficulty compared to most Scarlatti sonatas.

                                          I personally use Opus Clavicembalisticum for sight-reading practice.

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