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HHS Taking Over Collection of COVID-19 Hospital Data

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/15/891351706/white-house-strips-cdc-of-data-collection-role-for-covid-19-hospitalizations

    The gist of it is that the administration gives hospitals 48 hours to switch their data reporting, from reporting into an existing CDC system, to reporting into a new, different system controlled by the HHS Department, one built by a contractor who was awarded the contract about three months ago (April 2020).

    I can believe that CDC's system may be too laden with legacy baggages, to the point where a brand new system built from the ground up can outperform it at some metrics. Against a system that "collects data from every hospital in the country," I am skeptical that such a system can be made ready for prime time in only three months time, I am also skeptical that all the hospitals can just "switch" their data reporting with only 48 hours notice. But ultimately I do not know enough about either system to judge them one way or another.

    @Mik , you have spent some serious time with healthcare IT systems ... what do you make of all this?

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      I can guaran-freaking-tee you that there are going to be a mountain of problems with this, so I hope the contractor's ready for some very serious work regarding updates and how-tos.

      Please love yourself.

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        Do we know how long it took hospitals to build reporting to CDC in the first place and can they simply redirect reports if formats are the same?

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          Do we know how long it took hospitals to build reporting to CDC in the first place and can they simply redirect reports if formats are the same?

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          @Loki said in HHS Taking Over Collection of COVID-19 Hospital Data:

          Do we know how long it took hospitals to build reporting to CDC in the first place and can they simply redirect reports if formats are the same?

          When I was part of the team that built a new system used by 95% of US hospitals to report to CDC it took about a year. And the hospitals reported by filling out paper forms and sending them to Ann Arbor, MI. This was 1979.

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            Depends on if they used an existing system...Even if they did, there will be teething problems. OTOH, people have been screaming behind the scenes that something had to be done.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              These seems most likely motivated by a desire to increase political control of information dissemination.

              When will these idiots realize that managing optics isn’t enough.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                Idiots

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                  It has begun.

                  https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/16/us-coronavirus-data-has-already-disappeared-after-trump-administration-shifted-control-from-cdc-to-hhs.html

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Next they'll be tearing down statues of CDC heroes.

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