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Hunter: Plea Deal

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    BTW, see where Huhter's lawyer said the laptop was never mentioned in discussions?

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    George K
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    #25

    @Jolly said in Hunter: Plea Deal:

    BTW, see where Huhter's lawyer said the laptop was never mentioned in discussions?

    Why should it? FBI's only had it for four years. It's old news...

    Actually, he said he "doesn't recall" if it was mentioned. That's different.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      If the investigation is ongoing presumably that has to do with the contents of the laptop.

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        Grassley not happy...

        https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/20/grassley-plea-deal-ignores-significant-body-of-evidence-of-hunter-bidens-other-criminal-schemes/

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          If the investigation is ongoing then presumably it now is focused on all the stuff he's going on about.

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            #29

            Dude, the investigation is ongoing into a circular file.

            I'd be surprised if it wasn't. It's what our vaunted DOJ has become.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JonJ Offline
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              Jon
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              #30

              Seems highly unlikely that the Trump appointee would do that or let it be done to him without quitting publicly.

              On the other hand, to thoroughly exhaust every lead on several years (decades?) worth of a professional name-grifter’s email does seem like it would take an awfully long time, especially all the international interactions.

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                Highly unlikely is a common occurrence in The Swamp.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JonJ Offline
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                  Jon
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                  So you've been told.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #33

                    Nope, just a lifetime of Louisiana politics.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JonJ Offline
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                      #34

                      So tell me your theory of the case. Why would David Weiss, Trump's pick for US Attorney in Delaware, do the Biden's bidding?

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
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                          #36

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            #37

                            “We heard”. Can you be more specific?

                            Seems like she could be be disbarred and perhaps prosecuted if they have real evidence.

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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                "Seek active employment..."

                                LOL. I hear there are openings in Ukraine, Romania, China...

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  If that would have been Jon, he would have gotten prison time.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    George K
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                                    Wise and Hines are have been called prosecutorial "terminators"

                                    They are described as hardliners who “pursue stern sentences and prosecute even small-time crooks.”

                                    Their reputation comes from bringing some of the biggest public corruption cases in Maryland history.

                                    Wise helped bring the biggest racketeering case in Maryland history in 2016.

                                    Wise and Hines would later prosecute corrupt Baltimore cops who robbed drug dealers and ran interference for a million-dollar heroin ring.

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                                    The importance -

                                    In 2018, these prosecutors charged a defendant with failing to file/pay taxes (26 USC 7203) - the same charges brought against Hunter Biden.

                                    The 2018 defendant only owed $60K.

                                    But Wise and Hines demanded 1 year in jail. (He got 10 months)

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                                    In the 2018 case -

                                    These prosecutors made sure the Court was informed of the particular details by which that defendant (1) failed to pay taxes and (2) used false deductions.

                                    Their filings were thorough and complete.

                                    ![image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1690634359818-image.png

                                    How things have changed.

                                    For Hunter Biden, where the tax loss is between $1.2 million and $1.6 million...

                                    Prosecutors Wise and Hines (with the OK from Main DOJ) demand Hunter receive probation.

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                                    These prosecutors, via an Exhibit to the plea, also agree that that Hunter “miscategorized" prostitutes and sex clubs as "legitimate business expenses.

                                    In doing so, they downplay an easily provable felony (26 USC 7206, also not charged) as a mere mistake.

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                                    And by (apparently) allowing Hunter Biden's lawyers to draft plea documents, they omitted key facts underlying much of the uncharged conduct (deductions, etc.).

                                    Such deference was not seen in these prosecutors' similar 2018 tax case.

                                    Wise and Hines even agreed to the claim that Hunter received $1 million from Patrick Ho (a Chinese national convicted for bribery) “as a payment for legal fees” –

                                    without even thinking to question whether that payment was a bribe masked as legal fees.

                                    In sum, the Hunter Biden deal just isn't a departure for the DOJ -

                                    It is out of character for these public corruption prosecutors who earned their reputation as being tough on even minor offenders.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Schools. Cocktail parties. Social events.

                                      When you live in The Swamp, unless you want a pariah's existence for you and your family, you play ball.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Always nice for a mid level bureaucrat to feel like the President owes you a favor. Such favors are indeed paid back.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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