I think I just tanked an interview

Doctor Phibes

The alternative would have been to admit that they want everyone in the office because they don't trust them, and they can't say that in an interview.

Aqua Letifer

@Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:

It all depends on whether there is a viable runner up. By viable I mean close you in match for the role. They will not want a do ever. So if you have a relative double in the universe and that person loves the office, you are out.

Otherwise expect an offer.

Having a Skype call with the CFO and head of HR at the end of the week. I've had a sneaking suspicion that they don't have anyone else lined up.

It's going to get interesting during the call, because I'm NOT going into that office. But my current boss had a good idea: use it as a negotiating position. Would they be willing to let me work remotely if they paid me less money? Especially since the damn team is remote anyway?

I give it one chance in ten it works out but we'll see.

Catseye3

Good luck. I'm not sure in which direction I mean that, but anyway.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

Wow.

Keep us posted, of course.

LuFins Dad

@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:

money? Especially since the damn team is remote anyway?
I give it one chance in ten it works out but we'll see.

Holy cow, I've missed all this. Do we still have the popcorn emoji?

I'd hire you, but you would think I suck as a boss.

Klaus

@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:

I hate people.

I like your general sentiment.

Loki

If not for Covid would you go to the office? Would you agree for example to go one day a week until some all clear signal came out? Like a future commitment to the office?

Aqua Letifer

@Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:

If not for Covid would you go to the office? Would you agree for example to go one day a week until some all clear signal came out? Like a future commitment to the office?

Good questions. I don't think I have very appealing answers, though.

If not for Covid would you go to the office?

Sure, full-time. COVID's the only decider here.

Would you agree for example to go one day a week until some all clear signal came out? Like a future commitment to the office?

I've never been into that building, so I don't know the layout, what safety measures the building management, office staff, or cleaning crew are taking and more to the point, I have no idea what kind of enforcement exists, if any. If they asked me to do that, they'd be asking me to place blind faith in people I've never met, putting my and my family's health on the line just so they can maintain an absurd office policy.

I have a better idea: weekly (or daily, I don't care) mandatory check-ins with my boss. I don't meet any of my deadlines, fire me immediately. How's that.

Mik

Never offer to give up money. They really don't care about that anyway. Just stand firm that what you are looking for is a remote position, that you are accustomed to working that way and they will find your participation and steady availability satisfactory. Otherwise you will find yourself right back where you are today.

Aqua Letifer

@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:

Never offer to give up money. They really don't care about that anyway. Just stand firm that what you are looking for is a remote position, that you are accustomed to working that way and they will find your participation and steady availability satisfactory. Otherwise you will find yourself right back where you are today.

Good points. This is one of these things that I just do not know how to couch properly.

Axtremus

Agree ... if your bottom line is to have no requirement to go into the office, then stick to it. Offering to work cheaper won’t help you anyway if their bottom line is to have some one physically in the office.

Catseye3

And you start off by giving up power.

Klaus

@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:

Never offer to give up money. They really don't care about that anyway.

Yep.

Loki

I still don’t know why the CFO is on the call? It’s interesting.

Like he is going to suss out whether they should move forward with Aqua?

Heck maybe he wants the office closed and go full remote to save money.

Or he’s the closer that will talk Aqua into something.

Or he’s a shaman who can divine stuff we can’t see.

Or he’s like for Christ sake you wusses who can’t make a decision let me handle it.

Mik

Or he's there because it's a small company that wants to appear bigger.

Aqua Letifer

@Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:

And you start off by giving up power.

Well as a side note, I don't give any kind of a crap about this position. At all. I would not be there long if I got hired; I'm just in an "any port in the storm" type situation with my current job. I'd quit right this second if this was any kind of a normal year.

So, I don't really care about the money. Whatever they think the bottom might be, I could go lower.

As for the CFO thing, all I can figure is, we'll talk salary? I'm also apparently talking to the CRO right after on Skype. (What the hell is a CRO?)

Catseye3

@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:

(What the hell is a CRO?)

You gotta ask??? Chief Racial Officer, of course.

It should have been Chief Race Relations Officer, but that would've screwed up the symmetry on the letterhead.

Loki

Chief Revenue Officer

Don’t go there. I can tell there is no motivational fit. Not good for either of you.

Mik

Is this a nonprofit that relies on fundraising? That's the only situation I could see where these financial guys would be interested.

Aqua Letifer

@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:

Is this a nonprofit that relies on fundraising? That's the only situation I could see where these financial guys would be interested.

Nope, private company. Apparently they sell SaaS crap to hospitals?

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I think I just tanked an interview