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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    The real problem here is we have both sides twisting the truth to suit their own narratives.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      George K
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      #15

      And...another account.

      The man who conducted the choir that day tells The Daily Signal that the Capitol Police’s claim is an outright lie.

      “I was shocked, I was dismayed, I was stunned,” David Rasbach, the founder and director of the Rushingbrook Children’s Choir, told The Daily Signal of the incident, which took place on Friday, May 26. “I couldn’t believe that was happening, that they would stop the national anthem of all songs.”

      Rasbach spoke with The Daily Signal on Friday, June 2, describing the events of one week back. He said that he had secured permission from three congressional offices for the choir to sing in the Capitol. He said South Carolina Republican Reps. William Timmons and Joe Wilson had provided documents giving permission, as had the office of House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif.

      Micah Rea, founder and principal of The Rea Group and organizer of the trip, told The Daily Signal that a Wilson staffer called McCarthy’s office, confirming that the choir had permission to sing. Nonetheless, the Capitol Police interrupted the performance.

      Shortly before the choir started singing the national anthem, Andrew Tremel, the visitor operations manager at the Architect of the Capitol, temporarily stopped them from singing. When Rea told Tremel that congressional offices had granted permission, Tremel talked in his earpiece and told the choir they could start singing.

      Rasbach said the female police officer insisted that the performance is considered a demonstration, and that demonstrations in the U.S. Capitol are banned. She later said some people were offended, though Rasbach doubted her claim. He said the officer could not have heard from people who claimed to be offended “because her time was consumed with us.”

      The Capitol Police contested his claims.

      “Recently somebody posted a video of a children’s choir singing the Star-Spangled Banner in the U.S. Capitol Building and wrongfully claimed we stopped the performance because it ‘might offend someone,’” the Capitol Police told The Daily Signal in an email statement. “Here is the truth. Demonstrations and musical performances are not allowed in the U.S. Capitol.”

      “Of course, because the singers in this situation were children, our officers were reasonable and allowed the children to finish their beautiful rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner,” the police statement added. “The Congressional staff member who was accompanying the group knew the rules, yet lied to the officers multiple times about having permission from various offices. The staffer put both the choir and our officers, who were simply doing their jobs, in an awkward and embarrassing position.”

      “That’s a bald-faced lie,” Rea, the man who organized the trip, told The Daily Signal. “You can see clearly in the video, they literally stopped him before they finished singing ‘The Star-Spangled Banner.'”

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
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        #16

        A nice gesture would be to have the Capitol Police sing the National Anthem whenever any tourist requests it.

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        • CopperC Copper

          A nice gesture would be to have the Capitol Police sing the National Anthem whenever any tourist requests it.

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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #17

          @Copper said in FFS:

          A nice gesture would be to have the Capitol Police sing the National Anthem whenever any tourist requests it.

          Sorry, it's not a public building...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JonJ Jon

            @LuFins-Dad said in FFS:

            But we have the word of an independent journalist. That I’ve never heard of. That didn’t have anything to back up his claim.

            And in the original tweet we have a third hand report that the Capitol Police said it might ‘offend’ someone.

            It seems far more likely that they were asked to stop because the rules just dont allow it.

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #18

            @Jon said in FFS:

            @LuFins-Dad said in FFS:

            But we have the word of an independent journalist. That I’ve never heard of. That didn’t have anything to back up his claim.

            And in the original tweet we have a third hand report that the Capitol Police said it might ‘offend’ someone.

            It seems far more likely that they were asked to stop because the rules just dont allow it.

            No, in the thread you see attributed quotes to several people by name. Not “my sources”. The original poster might be some anonymous asshat, but they did back up their assertion.

            Beyond that, the very fact that singing Patriotic Songs is considered an inappropriate demonstration?! That doesn’t warrant a FFS?

            The Brad

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #19

              The Capitol Police are obviously in CYA mode, after having made an embarrassing blunder. A blunder that they have already admitted to, by saying they were "not aware of the permission given". Only a lefty tribalist would see it otherwise.

              My original post stands, about the theoretical group of black kids singing the black national anthem. The left would have had a field day with that situation. But it would never have occurred, because the capitol police would have sniffed the existential threat to their careers.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #20

                Because they are scared of black people...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @Jon said in FFS:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in FFS:

                  But we have the word of an independent journalist. That I’ve never heard of. That didn’t have anything to back up his claim.

                  And in the original tweet we have a third hand report that the Capitol Police said it might ‘offend’ someone.

                  It seems far more likely that they were asked to stop because the rules just dont allow it.

                  No, in the thread you see attributed quotes to several people by name. Not “my sources”. The original poster might be some anonymous asshat, but they did back up their assertion.

                  Beyond that, the very fact that singing Patriotic Songs is considered an inappropriate demonstration?! That doesn’t warrant a FFS?

                  JonJ Offline
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                  Jon
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #21

                  @LuFins-Dad said in FFS:

                  @Jon said in FFS:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in FFS:

                  But we have the word of an independent journalist. That I’ve never heard of. That didn’t have anything to back up his claim.

                  And in the original tweet we have a third hand report that the Capitol Police said it might ‘offend’ someone.

                  It seems far more likely that they were asked to stop because the rules just dont allow it.

                  No, in the thread you see attributed quotes to several people by name. Not “my sources”. The original poster might be some anonymous asshat, but they did back up their assertion.

                  Beyond that, the very fact that singing Patriotic Songs is considered an inappropriate demonstration?! That doesn’t warrant a FFS?

                  Surely a rule that said “no singing the national anthem” would merit a FFS. But a “no singing” rule wouldn’t, though reasonable people could disagree about whether there should be such a rule

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                  • JonJ Jon

                    @LuFins-Dad said in FFS:

                    @Jon said in FFS:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in FFS:

                    But we have the word of an independent journalist. That I’ve never heard of. That didn’t have anything to back up his claim.

                    And in the original tweet we have a third hand report that the Capitol Police said it might ‘offend’ someone.

                    It seems far more likely that they were asked to stop because the rules just dont allow it.

                    No, in the thread you see attributed quotes to several people by name. Not “my sources”. The original poster might be some anonymous asshat, but they did back up their assertion.

                    Beyond that, the very fact that singing Patriotic Songs is considered an inappropriate demonstration?! That doesn’t warrant a FFS?

                    Surely a rule that said “no singing the national anthem” would merit a FFS. But a “no singing” rule wouldn’t, though reasonable people could disagree about whether there should be such a rule

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #22

                    @Jon said in FFS:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in FFS:

                    @Jon said in FFS:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in FFS:

                    But we have the word of an independent journalist. That I’ve never heard of. That didn’t have anything to back up his claim.

                    And in the original tweet we have a third hand report that the Capitol Police said it might ‘offend’ someone.

                    It seems far more likely that they were asked to stop because the rules just dont allow it.

                    No, in the thread you see attributed quotes to several people by name. Not “my sources”. The original poster might be some anonymous asshat, but they did back up their assertion.

                    Beyond that, the very fact that singing Patriotic Songs is considered an inappropriate demonstration?! That doesn’t warrant a FFS?

                    Surely a rule that said “no singing the national anthem” would merit a FFS. But a “no singing” rule wouldn’t, though reasonable people could disagree about whether there should be such a rule

                    Again you are practicing selective understanding. The rule is that you need permission to perform, and that rule was not broken. The Capitol police originally reached out to the leftist 'journalist' with an email stating that a congressional staffer accompanying the choir, said they had permission. The police accused that person of lying. Then the police admitted the choir did have permission, and that no rule was broken.

                    So, putting the pieces together, the police were told, by a congressional staffer, that permission had been given for the choir to perform. The police decided that staffer was lying, and shut down the performance mid-song. They then proceeded to bend the narrative to attempt to justify their actions, backtracking through various lies (we waited until the song was done, the staffer was lying), and eventually landing on an admission of an unspecified "miscommunication".

                    Go ahead and frame that in some sort of way that the Capitol Police aren't in the wrong.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • CopperC Offline
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                      Copper
                      wrote on last edited by Copper
                      #23

                      If you hate the country, no Anthem in the Capitol.

                      If you don't hate the country, you have got to be kidding.

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