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They can't sing...

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Small gripe about the GenX'ers and the Millennials...They can't sing. Oh, some can carry a tune, but they can't sing. Especially in church.

    I don't know why. Could be a number of things...

    1. Kids don't take piano lessons like they used to. You know, those were considered so important to a child's development, that families that could not afford a used piano during the Great Depression, would still try to scrounge up enough money for a few piano lessons. Children would practice on piano keys drawn on cardboard. A lot of people could read music and stores would carry records and sheet music. The Depression kids grew up, married and a lot of their children took piano lessons or they took lessons on other musical instruments. Not that most continued, but a lot of those baby boomers had a smattering of musical knowledge.

    2. Singing schools. Alot of people, at least in the South, learned to sing in church. Churches used to have singing schools. They might even combine multiple churches into one event. Usually, a singing master would be brought in and the school would be kinda like a musical revival. People would be segregated according to voice - sopranos, altos, tenors, baritones and basses. Usually using shape note hymnals, people were first taught to quickly read the music by note/sound usually in one key. The different sections would work on their parts and then would sing combined. Different keys and hymns would be introduced as the week went by and by Sunday service, the participants would have a good half-dozen hymns under their belts, with everybody singing their part. I'll Fly Away, Leaning On the Everlasting Arms, Amazing Grace and such.

    3. The death of hymnals. A lot of churches don't sing out of their hymnals. Many don't even have hymnals. People are singing while looking at projected words. Even people who don't read music can look at a hymnal and figure out whether a song is going higher or lower.

    4. The rise of the 7/11 praise song. Seven words sang eleven times or the same eleven words sang seven times. No harmony. Often, no deep meaning...Certainly, nothing that could compare to a Crosby or Bliss hymn.

    5. The decline of modern music. Most modern music is rubbish. Musically uninteresting, same beatbox background with little originality between artists. There are some good artists and some good music, but most are overpowered by a tidal wave of drek.

    Anyway, some opinions on why young folks can't sing...

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    @Jolly said in They can't sing...:

    Anyway, some opinions on why young folks can't sing...

    They can't write worth pigeon shit, either.

    Please love yourself.

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    • George KG George K

      @Jolly Throckmorton's Law of Live Music: "If a band has an upright bass, it's going to be good."

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      @George-K said in They can't sing...:

      @Jolly Throckmorton's Law of Live Music: "If a band has an upright bass, it's going to be good."

      BTW, that's mom on the bass. To give you an idea on the age of the kids, themandolin player graduated from college (College of the Ozarks)this week.

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        How important is singing (as a skill) anyway, to a person, a society, a civilization?

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          No big deal. Just the origin of all music. Our first instruments were our voices.

          You may as well ask how important the arts are in general.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            How important are humans, anyway, in the grand scheme of things?

            Nobody can hear our screaming singing anyway.

            I was only joking

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              It's a socially acceptable way for stoic men to emote in public. Invaluable.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Playing devil's advocate for a moment....

                Link to video

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  How important are humans, anyway, in the grand scheme of things?

                  Nobody can hear our screaming singing anyway.

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in They can't sing...:

                  How important are humans, anyway, in the grand scheme of things?

                  is that you, Onslow?

                  Elbows up!

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                    Bouquet!

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      Bouquet!

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                      @Doctor-Phibes

                      Oh, nice.

                      Elbows up!

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