They can't sing...
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Small gripe about the GenX'ers and the Millennials...They can't sing. Oh, some can carry a tune, but they can't sing. Especially in church.
I don't know why. Could be a number of things...
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Kids don't take piano lessons like they used to. You know, those were considered so important to a child's development, that families that could not afford a used piano during the Great Depression, would still try to scrounge up enough money for a few piano lessons. Children would practice on piano keys drawn on cardboard. A lot of people could read music and stores would carry records and sheet music. The Depression kids grew up, married and a lot of their children took piano lessons or they took lessons on other musical instruments. Not that most continued, but a lot of those baby boomers had a smattering of musical knowledge.
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Singing schools. Alot of people, at least in the South, learned to sing in church. Churches used to have singing schools. They might even combine multiple churches into one event. Usually, a singing master would be brought in and the school would be kinda like a musical revival. People would be segregated according to voice - sopranos, altos, tenors, baritones and basses. Usually using shape note hymnals, people were first taught to quickly read the music by note/sound usually in one key. The different sections would work on their parts and then would sing combined. Different keys and hymns would be introduced as the week went by and by Sunday service, the participants would have a good half-dozen hymns under their belts, with everybody singing their part. I'll Fly Away, Leaning On the Everlasting Arms, Amazing Grace and such.
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The death of hymnals. A lot of churches don't sing out of their hymnals. Many don't even have hymnals. People are singing while looking at projected words. Even people who don't read music can look at a hymnal and figure out whether a song is going higher or lower.
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The rise of the 7/11 praise song. Seven words sang eleven times or the same eleven words sang seven times. No harmony. Often, no deep meaning...Certainly, nothing that could compare to a Crosby or Bliss hymn.
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The decline of modern music. Most modern music is rubbish. Musically uninteresting, same beatbox background with little originality between artists. There are some good artists and some good music, but most are overpowered by a tidal wave of drek.
Anyway, some opinions on why young folks can't sing...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Small gripe about the GenX'ers and the Millennials...They can't sing. Oh, some can carry a tune, but they can't sing. Especially in church.
I don't know why. Could be a number of things...
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Kids don't take piano lessons like they used to. You know, those were considered so important to a child's development, that families that could not afford a used piano during the Great Depression, would still try to scrounge up enough money for a few piano lessons. Children would practice on piano keys drawn on cardboard. A lot of people could read music and stores would carry records and sheet music. The Depression kids grew up, married and a lot of their children took piano lessons or they took lessons on other musical instruments. Not that most continued, but a lot of those baby boomers had a smattering of musical knowledge.
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Singing schools. Alot of people, at least in the South, learned to sing in church. Churches used to have singing schools. They might even combine multiple churches into one event. Usually, a singing master would be brought in and the school would be kinda like a musical revival. People would be segregated according to voice - sopranos, altos, tenors, baritones and basses. Usually using shape note hymnals, people were first taught to quickly read the music by note/sound usually in one key. The different sections would work on their parts and then would sing combined. Different keys and hymns would be introduced as the week went by and by Sunday service, the participants would have a good half-dozen hymns under their belts, with everybody singing their part. I'll Fly Away, Leaning On the Everlasting Arms, Amazing Grace and such.
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The death of hymnals. A lot of churches don't sing out of their hymnals. Many don't even have hymnals. People are singing while looking at projected words. Even people who don't read music can look at a hymnal and figure out whether a song is going higher or lower.
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The rise of the 7/11 praise song. Seven words sang eleven times or the same eleven words sang seven times. No harmony. Often, no deep meaning...Certainly, nothing that could compare to a Crosby or Bliss hymn.
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The decline of modern music. Most modern music is rubbish. Musically uninteresting, same beatbox background with little originality between artists. There are some good artists and some good music, but most are overpowered by a tidal wave of drek.
Anyway, some opinions on why young folks can't sing...
@Jolly said in They can't sing...:
- The death of hymnals. A lot of churches don't sing out of their hymnals. Many don't even have hymnals. People are singing while looking at projected words. Even people who don't read music can look at a hymnal and figure out whether a song is going higher or lower.
I'm a Creaster Lutrin. Mrs. George's church went to TV screens on either side of the sanctuary, and the prayers, Bible verses as well as words to the hymns are displayed. Given the heathen that I am, I had to resort to the hymnal so whether I should go "up" or "down." It's really a step backward.
The decline of modern music. Most modern music is rubbish. Musically uninteresting, same beatbox background with little originality between artists.
I came across a live performance from 1976 (?) of McCartney doing "Silly Love Songs." It's pablum, it's saccharine, but listen to that bass line. Listen to the counterpoint. My goodness, you're right. Nothing like that is out today.
Singing schools. Alot of people, at least in the South, learned to sing in church. Churches used to have singing schools.
Not around here, but there's more to be said in favor of that than just the ability to sing. It includes personal responsibility to learn "your part," the ability to partake in the discipline of a group. Not to mention harmonizing (which I can't do worth a damn.).
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I like harmony. Maybe that's why I like The Beatles, C,S,N & Y, The Bangles, Gospel quartets and barber shop.
No family like family harmony.
I picked this one because I like minor key stuff...Old hymn out of Heavenly Highways...
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The blonde has the best voice...
Link to video“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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I went to church for the first time in about 10 years a couple of weeks ago - High Church of England, and they still had a proper choir. I must admit I really enjoyed the hymn singing, but other than the choir I was almost the youngest one in there (barring my brother and his kids).
They closed the service with Jerusalem, which was very satisfactory.
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Played before, but I wouldn't want to leave anybody out...
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And...Saw these guys about a week ago. Bill doesn't sing as much, but he's 87 years-old. He was 85 when this was recorded...
Link to videoIf they're playing nearby and you like this kind of music, buy a ticket. They do over an hour, a 20 minute intermission and come back and do over another hour. They're tight and well-rehearsed. And uplifting.
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The blonde has the best voice...
Link to video@Jolly Throckmorton's Law of Live Music: "If a band has an upright bass, it's going to be good."
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Small gripe about the GenX'ers and the Millennials...They can't sing. Oh, some can carry a tune, but they can't sing. Especially in church.
I don't know why. Could be a number of things...
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Kids don't take piano lessons like they used to. You know, those were considered so important to a child's development, that families that could not afford a used piano during the Great Depression, would still try to scrounge up enough money for a few piano lessons. Children would practice on piano keys drawn on cardboard. A lot of people could read music and stores would carry records and sheet music. The Depression kids grew up, married and a lot of their children took piano lessons or they took lessons on other musical instruments. Not that most continued, but a lot of those baby boomers had a smattering of musical knowledge.
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Singing schools. Alot of people, at least in the South, learned to sing in church. Churches used to have singing schools. They might even combine multiple churches into one event. Usually, a singing master would be brought in and the school would be kinda like a musical revival. People would be segregated according to voice - sopranos, altos, tenors, baritones and basses. Usually using shape note hymnals, people were first taught to quickly read the music by note/sound usually in one key. The different sections would work on their parts and then would sing combined. Different keys and hymns would be introduced as the week went by and by Sunday service, the participants would have a good half-dozen hymns under their belts, with everybody singing their part. I'll Fly Away, Leaning On the Everlasting Arms, Amazing Grace and such.
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The death of hymnals. A lot of churches don't sing out of their hymnals. Many don't even have hymnals. People are singing while looking at projected words. Even people who don't read music can look at a hymnal and figure out whether a song is going higher or lower.
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The rise of the 7/11 praise song. Seven words sang eleven times or the same eleven words sang seven times. No harmony. Often, no deep meaning...Certainly, nothing that could compare to a Crosby or Bliss hymn.
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The decline of modern music. Most modern music is rubbish. Musically uninteresting, same beatbox background with little originality between artists. There are some good artists and some good music, but most are overpowered by a tidal wave of drek.
Anyway, some opinions on why young folks can't sing...
@Jolly said in They can't sing...:
Anyway, some opinions on why young folks can't sing...
They can't write worth pigeon shit, either.
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@Jolly Throckmorton's Law of Live Music: "If a band has an upright bass, it's going to be good."
@George-K said in They can't sing...:
@Jolly Throckmorton's Law of Live Music: "If a band has an upright bass, it's going to be good."
BTW, that's mom on the bass. To give you an idea on the age of the kids, themandolin player graduated from college (College of the Ozarks)this week.
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How important are humans, anyway, in the grand scheme of things?
Nobody can hear our
screamingsinging anyway.I was only joking
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Playing devil's advocate for a moment....
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How important are humans, anyway, in the grand scheme of things?
Nobody can hear our
screamingsinging anyway.@Doctor-Phibes said in They can't sing...:
How important are humans, anyway, in the grand scheme of things?
is that you, Onslow?
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Bouquet!
Oh, nice.
