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This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Infrastructure

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    George K
    wrote on 20 May 2023, 12:03 last edited by
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    Link to video

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 20 May 2023, 13:09 last edited by
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      It sure works that way in healthcare.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 20 May 2023, 13:35 last edited by
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        Problem with that Kite and Key video is that it doesn't substantiate why NEPA is the primary cause for delays and highest costs for infrastructure projects.

        It rattles off a few examples of infrastructure projects taking too long and costing too much, but doesn't get into analysis that shows NEPA to be the primary cause of those delays and high costs.

        They may still be right (it certainly sounds plausible), but they haven't shown their work.

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          Mik
          wrote on 20 May 2023, 13:41 last edited by
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          Ah, yes. Shooting the messenger.

          Well, I showed that to a friend of mine who has been a construction PM for decades. He confirmed it was accurate.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • M Mik
            20 May 2023, 13:41

            Ah, yes. Shooting the messenger.

            Well, I showed that to a friend of mine who has been a construction PM for decades. He confirmed it was accurate.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 20 May 2023, 13:51 last edited by
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            @Mik said in This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Infrastructure:

            Ah, yes. Shooting the messenger.

            Nope. I was shooting the (lack of) methodology.

            Well, I showed that to a friend of mine who has been a construction PM for decades. He confirmed it was accurate.

            Here you're appealing to authority. You cite "a friend" who supposedly knows something to make a claim, but neither you or your friend has shown any analysis that backs up the claim.

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              20 May 2023, 13:51

              @Mik said in This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Infrastructure:

              Ah, yes. Shooting the messenger.

              Nope. I was shooting the (lack of) methodology.

              Well, I showed that to a friend of mine who has been a construction PM for decades. He confirmed it was accurate.

              Here you're appealing to authority. You cite "a friend" who supposedly knows something to make a claim, but neither you or your friend has shown any analysis that backs up the claim.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 20 May 2023, 14:09 last edited by
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              @Axtremus said in This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Infrastructure:

              @Mik said in This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Infrastructure:

              Ah, yes. Shooting the messenger.

              Nope. I was shooting the (lack of) methodology.

              Well, I showed that to a friend of mine who has been a construction PM for decades. He confirmed it was accurate.

              Here you're appealing to authority. You cite "a friend" who supposedly knows something to make a claim, but neither you or your friend has shown any analysis that backs up the claim.

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              Please love yourself.

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