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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #5

    What evidence do we have that any decisions were rendered in return for the various payments?

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      What evidence do we have that any decisions were rendered in return for the various payments?

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      George K
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      #6

      @jon-nyc said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

      What evidence do we have that any decisions were rendered in return for the various payments?

      Maybe Justice Thomas has a clue?

      Never mind.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @jon-nyc said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

        What evidence do we have that any decisions were rendered in return for the various payments?

        Maybe Justice Thomas has a clue?

        Never mind.

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        jon-nyc
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        #7

        @George-K Thats actually where I was going with this!

        Of course one difference is Justice Thomas himself engaged in this “ickiness” whereas with the Biden family it seems to be people with the golden last name, from what we know now.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          What evidence do we have that any decisions were rendered in return for the various payments?

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          Copper
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          #8

          @jon-nyc said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

          What evidence do we have that any decisions were rendered in return for the various payments?

          I have the above linked article.

          The story is about Joe Biden, not the "family"

          The story is that there is evidence that proves corrupt criminal activity

          Other than that I don't have anything.

          The incriminating evidence comes from thousands of subpoenaed banking records, wire transfers, and electronic transactions contained in more than 170 suspicious activity reports (SARs) that were flagged by banks and sent to the criminal division at the Treasury Department. The Biden administration refused to cough up those records until the Committee recently forced its hand. There are still more documents to be examined, suggesting that the Biden profiteering could far exceed the millions of dollars already tracked.

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            @jon-nyc said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

            What evidence do we have that any decisions were rendered in return for the various payments?

            I have the above linked article.

            The story is about Joe Biden, not the "family"

            The story is that there is evidence that proves corrupt criminal activity

            Other than that I don't have anything.

            The incriminating evidence comes from thousands of subpoenaed banking records, wire transfers, and electronic transactions contained in more than 170 suspicious activity reports (SARs) that were flagged by banks and sent to the criminal division at the Treasury Department. The Biden administration refused to cough up those records until the Committee recently forced its hand. There are still more documents to be examined, suggesting that the Biden profiteering could far exceed the millions of dollars already tracked.

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            jon-nyc
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            #9

            @Copper That’s all about the “Biden Family” (aka ‘not Joe’)

            The only thing regarding Joe himself is that someone told House Republicans that an anonymous guy accused Joe of taking bribes and the FBI interviewed him and took notes.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Copper
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              Why bother trying to minimize it?

              We can see what it says.

              It says there is evidence that Joe is a traitor and a criminal.

              RenaudaR jon-nycJ 2 Replies Last reply
              • CopperC Copper

                Why bother trying to minimize it?

                We can see what it says.

                It says there is evidence that Joe is a traitor and a criminal.

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                Renauda
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                #11

                @Copper

                Why bother trying to minimize it?

                We can see what it says.

                It says there is evidence that Joe is a traitor and a criminal.

                Maybe you should do something about it. Write your Congessman. Send a letter to the editor. Convene a meeting of concerned citizens in local community hall.

                Start a thread expressing your outrage and indignation on a social media forum like TNCR.

                Dig a hole in your backyard and scream into it for all the neighbours to hear.

                Elbows up!

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                • CopperC Copper

                  Why bother trying to minimize it?

                  We can see what it says.

                  It says there is evidence that Joe is a traitor and a criminal.

                  jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #12

                  @Copper said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                  Why bother trying to minimize it?

                  We can see what it says.

                  It says there is evidence that Joe is a traitor and a criminal.

                  You can’t see what it says because it hasn’t been released, if it exists at all.

                  I don’t minimize the “ickiness” of Hunter, I’ve said here that I would love to see him arrested, if what we read about the evidence against him is true.

                  I’ve also given some thought about what we could conceivably do about politician’s family members trading on their name and it’s hard to imagine what we could realistically do to prevent it.

                  You can demand financial transparency and ethics rules for the candidates themselves, but it’s not like (say) your uncle running for office could obligate you to submit financial disclosures.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @Copper said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                    Why bother trying to minimize it?

                    We can see what it says.

                    It says there is evidence that Joe is a traitor and a criminal.

                    You can’t see what it says because it hasn’t been released, if it exists at all.

                    I don’t minimize the “ickiness” of Hunter, I’ve said here that I would love to see him arrested, if what we read about the evidence against him is true.

                    I’ve also given some thought about what we could conceivably do about politician’s family members trading on their name and it’s hard to imagine what we could realistically do to prevent it.

                    You can demand financial transparency and ethics rules for the candidates themselves, but it’s not like (say) your uncle running for office could obligate you to submit financial disclosures.

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                    So it's pretty much a tie with Trump when it comes to past financial corruption.
                    But what sort of person would vote for a rapist?

                    George KG 1 Reply Last reply
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                      So it's pretty much a tie with Trump when it comes to past financial corruption.
                      But what sort of person would vote for a rapist?

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                      @AndyD said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                      But what sort of person would vote for a rapist?

                      What kind of person would be a fan of the TV show hosted by a rapist?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @AndyD said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                        But what sort of person would vote for a rapist?

                        What kind of person would be a fan of the TV show hosted by a rapist?

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                        @George-K said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                        @AndyD said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                        But what sort of person would vote for a rapist?

                        What kind of person would be a fan of the TV show hosted by a rapist?

                        Same kind of person that would lobby for a law that override the statute of limitations, strictly so she could sue Trump. A law that sunsets in 12 months from its inception.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          I don't know if any of this is criminal or not. But it seems to me that a guy with the powers of a senator, VP and now POTUS could exert enough influence to stop his kid from trading on his name. That didn't happen.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @George-K said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                            @AndyD said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                            But what sort of person would vote for a rapist?

                            What kind of person would be a fan of the TV show hosted by a rapist?

                            Same kind of person that would lobby for a law that override the statute of limitations, strictly so she could sue Trump. A law that sunsets in 12 months from its inception.

                            MikM Offline
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                            Mik
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                            @Jolly said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                            @George-K said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                            @AndyD said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                            But what sort of person would vote for a rapist?

                            What kind of person would be a fan of the TV show hosted by a rapist?

                            Same kind of person that would lobby for a law that override the statute of limitations, strictly so she could sue Trump. A law that sunsets in 12 months from its inception.

                            The thing that got me about that was her 'perfect victim' routine. Now I understand that in many instances a victim might not scream or fight back. But she was in a dressing area in Bergdorfs. One small yell would have kiboshed the whole thing.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              jon-nyc
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                              It’s been a problem a long time. Hunter’s case is pretty egregious. The Trump family was probably the worst offender between Ivanka’s Chinese interests and Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states pouring money into Trump properties.

                              But it goes back as far as I can remember. Remember Billy Beer?

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • MikM Mik

                                @Jolly said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                @George-K said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                @AndyD said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                But what sort of person would vote for a rapist?

                                What kind of person would be a fan of the TV show hosted by a rapist?

                                Same kind of person that would lobby for a law that override the statute of limitations, strictly so she could sue Trump. A law that sunsets in 12 months from its inception.

                                The thing that got me about that was her 'perfect victim' routine. Now I understand that in many instances a victim might not scream or fight back. But she was in a dressing area in Bergdorfs. One small yell would have kiboshed the whole thing.

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                                Jolly
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                                @Mik said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                @Jolly said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                @George-K said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                @AndyD said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                But what sort of person would vote for a rapist?

                                What kind of person would be a fan of the TV show hosted by a rapist?

                                Same kind of person that would lobby for a law that override the statute of limitations, strictly so she could sue Trump. A law that sunsets in 12 months from its inception.

                                The thing that got me about that was her 'perfect victim' routine. Now I understand that in many instances a victim might not scream or fight back. But she was in a dressing area in Bergdorfs. One small yell would have kiboshed the whole thing.

                                Need to note the law. It's a sexual harassment law. Sexual harassment law, IMO, is some of the most nebulous, wishy-washy, absolutely shitty law that exists.

                                Trump was not convicted of rape, he was found guilty of sexual harassment. That could range from inappropriate touching to trying to steal a kiss.

                                As a pretty damn good labor attorney told me one time, these violations are purely a matter of the victim's perception.

                                I think it's an entire area of law we need to take a very hard look at and refine.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @Mik said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                  @Jolly said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                  @George-K said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                  @AndyD said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                  But what sort of person would vote for a rapist?

                                  What kind of person would be a fan of the TV show hosted by a rapist?

                                  Same kind of person that would lobby for a law that override the statute of limitations, strictly so she could sue Trump. A law that sunsets in 12 months from its inception.

                                  The thing that got me about that was her 'perfect victim' routine. Now I understand that in many instances a victim might not scream or fight back. But she was in a dressing area in Bergdorfs. One small yell would have kiboshed the whole thing.

                                  Need to note the law. It's a sexual harassment law. Sexual harassment law, IMO, is some of the most nebulous, wishy-washy, absolutely shitty law that exists.

                                  Trump was not convicted of rape, he was found guilty of sexual harassment. That could range from inappropriate touching to trying to steal a kiss.

                                  As a pretty damn good labor attorney told me one time, these violations are purely a matter of the victim's perception.

                                  I think it's an entire area of law we need to take a very hard look at and refine.

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                                  George K
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                                  @Jolly said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                  Trump was not convicted of rape, he was found guilty liable for sexual harassment.

                                  This was a civil case. "Guilt" is not a thing.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    It’s been a problem a long time. Hunter’s case is pretty egregious. The Trump family was probably the worst offender between Ivanka’s Chinese interests and Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states pouring money into Trump properties.

                                    But it goes back as far as I can remember. Remember Billy Beer?

                                    MikM Offline
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                                    Mik
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                                    #21

                                    @jon-nyc said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                    It’s been a problem a long time. Hunter’s case is pretty egregious. The Trump family was probably the worst offender between Ivanka’s Chinese interests and Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states pouring money into Trump properties.

                                    But it goes back as far as I can remember. Remember Billy Beer?

                                    Billy Beer did not to my knowledge involve foreign interests.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      Yeah, I was going to mention it was a far more benign example.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @Copper

                                        Why bother trying to minimize it?

                                        We can see what it says.

                                        It says there is evidence that Joe is a traitor and a criminal.

                                        Maybe you should do something about it. Write your Congessman. Send a letter to the editor. Convene a meeting of concerned citizens in local community hall.

                                        Start a thread expressing your outrage and indignation on a social media forum like TNCR.

                                        Dig a hole in your backyard and scream into it for all the neighbours to hear.

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                                        Copper
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                                        @Renauda said in Biden family's breathtaking corruption:

                                        Maybe you should do something about it.

                                        Like you did?

                                        I could never do anything as clever as your post.

                                        Gee, that was really biting wit.

                                        Thanks for sharing, we all owe you so much.

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                                          Mik
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                                          #24

                                          It's an example of trading on the name, yes, but not trading the expectation of access or influence. It really does not belong in this discussion.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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