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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Trump Townhall

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      Did anyone watch?

      I didn't.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        Nope.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          Lame.

          The Brad

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #5

            You watched?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              Nope. Don’t need to see what Lame Donald had to say to know it was Lame.

              The Brad

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #7

                Okay.

                Word is, that after his performance last night, DeSantis is meeting with his advisors this morning.

                His campaign may be called off.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Okay.

                  Word is, that after his performance last night, DeSantis is meeting with his advisors this morning.

                  His campaign may be called off.

                  George KG Offline
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                  @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                  Word is, that after his performance last night, DeSantis is meeting with his advisors this morning.

                  His campaign may be called off.

                  Did Trump do that well?

                  F'ing "interesting times."

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                    Word is, that after his performance last night, DeSantis is meeting with his advisors this morning.

                    His campaign may be called off.

                    Did Trump do that well?

                    F'ing "interesting times."

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    @George-K said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                    @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                    Word is, that after his performance last night, DeSantis is meeting with his advisors this morning.

                    His campaign may be called off.

                    Did Trump do that well?

                    F'ing "interesting times."

                    Trump did Trump. Remember, this was a Republican town hall, with an adversarial moderator. She hammered Trump hard the first fifteen minutes or so on on the election and January 6. This was his worst segment, because he got too focused on that and it's not the issue GOP voters want to hear about. He still believes 2020 was rigged. And he said that it is possible he would pardon some of the convicted Jan 6 protesters.

                    When the town hall got around to other issues, that's when he performed better.

                    1. Energy. More emphasis on fossil fuel production.
                    2. Debt default. Biden needs to cut a deal with the Republicans. Said default is going to happen sooner or later, if we do not address spending.
                    3. Ukraine. First, stop the killing (armistice, I assume). Then broker a peace deal. The moderator pushed him to name Putin a war criminal. Trump said that could be addressed later, but to do so going in kills the chances of peace.
                    4. The border. He and the moderator clashed continually. To the point when he told her she was a nasty person. He was right. She's supposed to be a moderator, not an inquisitor. It makes Trump look good when media goes that route. Anyway, he thought Title 42 should gave extended in some form and that the Biden Administration was downplaying the actual flood of migrants coming, which might be three times what we are being told.
                    5. Abortion. The moderator tried repeatedly to get him to support a federal abortion rights law. He's not doing it. What he did say, is that abortion should be available for cases of rape, incest and when the mother's life is in danger. His opinion is that Dobbs gave the prolife supporters a bargaining chip, that radical Democrats want abortion on demand up until birth which is insane, and that more moderate abortion supporters and the prolife supporters could and should be able to achieve a compromise...I'm thinking if a 16-20 week bill hits his desk, it gets signed.I

                    There's more and the recording is available online.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      I saw a "after-action" clip of someone interviewing several attendees.

                      The question was, "Why is Trump obsessed with Jan 6?"

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.

                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                          Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.

                          I didn't watch...

                          I assume he's suggesting allowing Russia to continue to hold Crimea and the Donbas region?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                            Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.

                            I didn't watch...

                            I assume he's suggesting allowing Russia to continue to hold Crimea and the Donbas region?

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                            @George-K said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                            @jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                            Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.

                            I didn't watch...

                            I assume he's suggesting allowing Russia to continue to hold Crimea and the Donbas region?

                            I did not hear him say that.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.

                                I didn't watch...

                                I assume he's suggesting allowing Russia to continue to hold Crimea and the Donbas region?

                                MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
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                                @George-K said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                @jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                Wow he wants to help carve-up Ukraine.

                                I didn't watch...

                                I assume he's suggesting allowing Russia to continue to hold Crimea and the Donbas region?

                                I think he might be willing to give up more of Ukraine than I would, but to expect him to carve out a position on a yet to be entered negotiation is asking him to be stupid.

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                • George KG George K

                                  I saw a "after-action" clip of someone interviewing several attendees.

                                  The question was, "Why is Trump obsessed with Jan 6?"

                                  MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
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                                  @George-K said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                  I saw a "after-action" clip of someone interviewing several attendees.

                                  The question was, "Why is Trump obsessed with Jan 6?"

                                  Yep. They handed him his head. Rightfully so.

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                    One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      JollyJ Offline
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                      Yep. And some Republican ones, too.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

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                                        @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                        One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

                                        That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.

                                        Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                          One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

                                          That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.

                                          Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.

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                                          @Renauda said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                          @Jolly said in Anybody watching CNN besides me?:

                                          One Ukraine War thing Trump did harp on, was who in the West was doing the funding for Ukraine. His point was that Europe's economy is approximately equal to the U.S., but we have put in 5x or more of the total support

                                          That is a legitimate concern. Support of Ukraine is essentially being undertaken by three countries. The first being the US followed by the UK and third, Poland. At the same time however, the only continental power in Europe other than Russia is the USA. Britain has never been a continental power, Germany ceased to be one in 1945 and there is little point in even discussing France and its role in European security.

                                          Arguably all NATO members should bear the burden not just the US, the UK and Poland.

                                          If Germany can't step forward, who can?

                                          Just a note on a related subject...The most popular boy's name in Germany last year was Mohammed. In the eternal balancing act between guns & butter and considering Germany's view of the military since WW2, has the equation slid so far towards social services that Germany can no longer field an effective military? Or pay for its own defense?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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