Sometimes cruelty is the whole point

[Mik]

@jon-nyc said in Sometimes cruelty is the whole point:

@Mik The DACA program doesn't offer a pathway to permanent legal status or citizenship. They’re kind of screwed, unless they marry a native.

That should be corrected. Just leaving them in status limbo forever is just as cruel. It all comes down to Congress cowardice to act over the past 30 years.

[Jolly]

Want to fix the system?

Pain fixes the system. You take every illegal in this country and deport them.

Every. One. DACA. Non-DACA. Every. One.

Set up a series of boards and immigration judges, let them interpret the law being as lenient as they can. Provide an accelerated way for the DACA folks to acquire legal green cards or even give them a path to citizenship.

While we're doing that, let's take a good, hard look at immigration law. Let's provide for a Braceros work program such as FDR's with accelerated approval and background checks. Let's take a look at who we allow in the country and try to be as fair and equitable as possible. And lastly, let's put a Constitutional Amendment out there for ratification, simply stating that the ONLY way to become a citizen of the U.S. is to be born here, or to be formally naturalized. (Born here would apply to soldier's families and embassy personnel).

Then close the damn borders. Make it a felony to enter the country illegally, punishable by a mandatory 10 years incarceration, no parole. And work 'em for the public good. For six days out of every seven, for ten years, I want them cleaning public buildings and parks. I want them painting schools. I want them working on truck farms, growing food for people on welfare and for themselves. In short, I want them working and not sitting on their keister.

[jon-nyc]

Based on a few assumptions and googling some data, this probably applies to just a couple dozen people.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Sometimes cruelty is the whole point:

Based on a few assumptions and googling some data, this probably applies to just a couple dozen people.

That's a small universe of cruelty.

[jon-nyc]

And displays the manifest pettiness of the move.

[Mik]

The current situation is bad, and it is difficult to see how this makes it better.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Sometimes cruelty is the whole point:

And displays the manifest pettiness of the move.

All of politics sends a message, and messages are not always cruel. They can even be thoughtful. But this move is probably petty.

[George K]

Punishing the children for the sins of their forbears is cruel, amirite?

[Mik]

What DeSantis does with it may well affect his shot at the presidency. It could certainly affect my opinion.

[Axtremus]

How committed are DeSantis and Florida's legislature about punishing the DACA folks?

What's next?
No DACA teacher?
No DACA EMT?
No DACA firefighter?
No DACA police officer?
No DACA doctor, nurse, public accountant, engineer, land surveyor, realtor ...
No DACA state-licensed trade person of any sort?
Fire all DACA people from state payroll?

[Mik]

And the root of all that is their nebulous status.