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Me? I choose Life.
Perhaps except when it comes to gun control?
Put the woman on the list, treat her like any other kidney transplant patient and put a kidney in her if they have one
A kidney for that woman means one fewer kidney for others on the transplant list, likely one more prudent and more rational when it comes to taking health risks and thus one more likely to survive longer and better if given the same kidney.
Me? I choose Life.
Perhaps except when it comes to gun control?
Put the woman on the list, treat her like any other kidney transplant patient and put a kidney in her if they have one
A kidney for that woman means one fewer kidney for others on the transplant list, likely one more prudent and more rational when it comes to taking health risks and thus one more likely to survive longer and better if given the same kidney.
I've had a nice, hot bath and have decided to expound a bit more on this one...
First, why do you own a gun? Who are you scared of? Bad people? The government? Yourself?
Bad people? A person wants to be secure in their possesions, but a lot of people will not kill others over a simple material possesion. People will use deadly force when they or their loved ones are threatened...They choose life. Particularly life they value.
The government? Well, that is a large part of the reason the Second Amendment exits. OTOH, you seem to like government for many things, so I don't know. Either way, it's a freedom issue and subsequently a life issue.
Yourself? What a dumb question, you say. Except I've seen people so scared of suffering or perhaps being a burden to others, they wanted to make sure they had a way to quickly off themselves. That is certainly a life issue, albeit the Death side of the coin.
Now, let's go back to your Walmart medical license...You must be the world's greatest clinician to determine patient tissue matches and organ rejection possibilities, having never looked at or spoken to the patient. You don't know her lifestyle habits (hint: alcoholics don't make good kidney recipients) or whether she will be compliant with post-transplant treatment regimens.
I know the official line is that list placement and transplant scores are made as unbiased as possible, but I also know people are people. When it comes to life and death, sometimes the hard figures get softened.
But about the COVID vaccine...How do you know she's more likely to die within the normal life of the transplant? I submit you don't. Furthermore, knowing Emory like I do, I suspect science has not caught up with their transplant program and they may not know, either.
Consider the data and what we know...
- What is the predominant strain of COVID and how effective is the current COVID vaccine against mortality or serious illness?
- Most Americans have had COVID by now. Does natural immunity exist in this parient? Is that considered?
- What data set is Emory basing their conclusions on? The predominant strain that existed twelve months ago is not the predominant strain today.
- Lastly, what Emory is calling a vaccine is not a vaccine in the traditional sense and life and death decisions should not be made on incomplete or faulty data.
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@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
Didn't the head of the Catholic Church approve the COVID vaccine?
No need
Every Catholic knows the line
"a devout Roman Catholic, is opposed to ingesting or being injected with such vaccines"
is nonsense.
Almost a silly as Ax's line about serving transplant patients.
Sorry, I am not sure I understand what you are saying. Not sure if you are agree with the Catholic Church or are against them on this issue.
@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.
The head of the church did not have to approve the covid vax.
Because his approval is not needed.
Any idea that he would disapprove of it is just plain nonsense.
And the pope does encourage the use of the vax.
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@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.
The head of the church did not have to approve the covid vax.
Because his approval is not needed.
Any idea that he would disapprove of it is just plain nonsense.
And the pope does encourage the use of the vax.
@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.
The head of the church did not have to approve the covid vax.
Because his approval is not needed.
Any idea that he would disapprove of it is just plain nonsense.
And the pope does encourage the use of the vax.
You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
So, do you think that this woman, who is catholic, claiming a religious exemption is correct?
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@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.
The head of the church did not have to approve the covid vax.
Because his approval is not needed.
Any idea that he would disapprove of it is just plain nonsense.
And the pope does encourage the use of the vax.
You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
So, do you think that this woman, who is catholic, claiming a religious exemption is correct?
You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
The Maharishi Copperhish Yogi.
Actually TG, some Catholic Archbishops in North America had some initial concerns about the Johnson Johnson vaccine but decided that the common good was best served by taking it if no other vaccine was as available. I do not believe there were any ecclesiastical concerns about the Pfizer or Moderna MNRA vaccines.
So our much venerated resident Swami is not inaccurate, just not telling the whole story as you rightly surmised.
Elbows up!
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You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
The Maharishi Copperhish Yogi.
Actually TG, some Catholic Archbishops in North America had some initial concerns about the Johnson Johnson vaccine but decided that the common good was best served by taking it if no other vaccine was as available. I do not believe there were any ecclesiastical concerns about the Pfizer or Moderna MNRA vaccines.
So our much venerated resident Swami is not inaccurate, just not telling the whole story as you rightly surmised.
You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
The Maharishi Copperhish Yogi.
Actually TG, some Catholic Archbishops in North America had some initial concerns about the Johnson Johnson vaccine but decided that the greater good was best served by taking if no other vaccine was as available. I do not believe there were any ecclesiastical concerns about the Pfizer or Moderna MNRA vaccines.
So our much venerated resident Swami is not inaccurate, just not telling the whole story as you rightly surmised.
I had an employee claim religious exemption, and he was a Roman Catholic. The actual truth was that he didn't want to have the vaccine. Eventually, he saw sense and thus kept his job. I was secretly hoping that he wouldn't, but that's another story.
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You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
The Maharishi Copperhish Yogi.
Actually TG, some Catholic Archbishops in North America had some initial concerns about the Johnson Johnson vaccine but decided that the common good was best served by taking it if no other vaccine was as available. I do not believe there were any ecclesiastical concerns about the Pfizer or Moderna MNRA vaccines.
So our much venerated resident Swami is not inaccurate, just not telling the whole story as you rightly surmised.
not telling the whole story
The question concerned the pope.
Did you spend an entire day trying to find an obscure reference by some cleric just so you could write this nonsense?
That is pretty weird.
A religious exemption probably has some legal definition that is likely to have little to do with Roman Catholicism or any other organized religion.
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not telling the whole story
The question concerned the pope.
Did you spend an entire day trying to find an obscure reference by some cleric just so you could write this nonsense?
That is pretty weird.
A religious exemption probably has some legal definition that is likely to have little to do with Roman Catholicism or any other organized religion.
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