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From The Epoch Times:
A 41-year-old Georgia mother of seven young children has been rejected as a candidate for a kidney transplant by Emory Healthcare Inc., even though she’s on dialysis and potentially facing death.
The reason? The woman, who has already had COVID-19, refused to receive the COVID-19 vaccine on religious and medical grounds.
The woman, who will be referred to as Jane Doe to protect her privacy, was referred to Atlanta-based Emory by her nephrologist after suddenly developing end-stage kidney disease, according to Liberty Counsel (LC), a national nonprofit legal organization that’s assisting Doe.
The seriousness of Doe’s condition necessitates her undergoing dialysis three times per week to keep her alive.
Following an evaluation by one of the transplant center’s nurse practitioners, Doe was initially found to be an acceptable candidate for a new kidney, even though she reported that she hadn’t been vaccinated against COVID-19, according to Liberty Counsel.
Life or Death Decision
Doe’s hopes were soon dashed when, after another consultation with Emory staffers, a social worker informed her that she couldn’t be added to the transplant program’s “active waiting list” until she took the vaccine.Epoch Times Photo
Mat Staver. (Courtesy of Liberty Counsel)
Emory Healthcare is one of 35 percent of the nation’s transplant centers that still require patients to be vaccinated for COVID-19, according to a Liberty Counsel analysis.That’s despite the fact that on April 11, President Joe Biden declared the national emergency caused by the COVID-19 pandemic to be officially over.
On April 17, LC sent a letter to Emory Healthcare requesting that no later than April 30, Doe be granted religious and medical exemptions from its COVID-19 vaccination mandate and asked that she be reactivated and placed on the kidney transplant active waiting list.
Religious Convictions
The nine-page letter alleges that every available COVID-19 vaccine is associated with aborted “fetal cell lines.” It cites evidence from the public health departments of North Dakota and Louisiana as proof.Doe, a devout Roman Catholic, is opposed to ingesting or being injected with such vaccines based on her religious beliefs.
The Liberty Counsel also informed Emory Healthcare that there were strong medical reasons for Doe’s refusal to get the vaccine.
Standing on Natural Immunity
The demand letter states that Doe had already recovered from a bout with COVID-19 and that her antibody numbers were actually stronger than those found in many people who were fully vaccinated for 90 days.LC cited several published scientific peer-reviewed studies as evidence.
“Because of her (Doe’s) acquired natural immunity and documented SARS-CoV-2 antibodies and other factors, (Doe) respectfully requests that the Transplant Team and/or Committee permit her to obtain an exemption from the COVID-19 vaccinations because of the risks associated with vaccinating someone with such a high antibody count,” the letter reads.
In an April 20 statement, Liberty Counsel called the risk of blood clots, myocarditis, and other heart issues associated with the COVID-19 vaccines as one of the bases of Doe’s medical objections.
LC also stated the legal position that since there are no Food and Drug Administration-approved COVID shots available and all the current vaccines are under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), Emory can’t lawfully condition providing a transplant upon a patient taking a vaccine.
Citing federal law, LC stated in its letter to Emory that all individuals to whom a EUA product is offered must be informed that they have a choice of whether to take it.
“The statutorily required Fact Sheets for each of the EUA COVID-19 vaccines acknowledge that individuals cannot be compelled to accept or receive the vaccine,” the letter reads.
A Plea for Mercy
“It is unconscionable to deny anyone a religious or medical accommodation from an experimental injection, especially someone who needs an organ transplant,” Liberty Counsel founder and Chairman Mat Staver said in the statement. “Emory should be ashamed of its actions and reverse this unreasonable policy.“Emory needs to do the right action immediately and allow this woman to receive the kidney she needs to save her life.”
On April 24, Emory Healthcare spokesperson Janet Christenbury told The Epoch Times: “We continue to monitor the prevalence of COVID-19 and other respiratory illnesses in our community. Based on these assessments, the Emory Transplant Center currently recommends, but does not require, COVID-19 vaccinations for kidney transplant candidates and kidney transplant recipients. Because of patient privacy rules, we cannot comment on specific patient cases.”
When asked for its response to Emory’s statement, Liberty Counsel’s Senior Litigation Coordinator Deborah Catalano said: “We have been told that the transplant coordinator told her (Doe) that she won’t get on the kidney waiting list without it (the shot). If the patients cannot move forward with the process because they don’t take the COVID vaccine, it’s a requirement rather than a recommendation.”
Emory Healthcare, an affiliate of Emory University in Atlanta, is one of the leading transplant centers in the South.
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From The Epoch Times:
A 41-year-old Georgia mother of seven young children has been rejected as a candidate for a kidney transplant by Emory Healthcare Inc., even though she’s on dialysis and potentially facing death.
The reason? The woman, who has already had COVID-19, refused to receive the COVID-19 vaccine on religious and medical grounds.
The woman, who will be referred to as Jane Doe to protect her privacy, was referred to Atlanta-based Emory by her nephrologist after suddenly developing end-stage kidney disease, according to Liberty Counsel (LC), a national nonprofit legal organization that’s assisting Doe.
The seriousness of Doe’s condition necessitates her undergoing dialysis three times per week to keep her alive.
Following an evaluation by one of the transplant center’s nurse practitioners, Doe was initially found to be an acceptable candidate for a new kidney, even though she reported that she hadn’t been vaccinated against COVID-19, according to Liberty Counsel.
Life or Death Decision
Doe’s hopes were soon dashed when, after another consultation with Emory staffers, a social worker informed her that she couldn’t be added to the transplant program’s “active waiting list” until she took the vaccine.Epoch Times Photo
Mat Staver. (Courtesy of Liberty Counsel)
Emory Healthcare is one of 35 percent of the nation’s transplant centers that still require patients to be vaccinated for COVID-19, according to a Liberty Counsel analysis.That’s despite the fact that on April 11, President Joe Biden declared the national emergency caused by the COVID-19 pandemic to be officially over.
On April 17, LC sent a letter to Emory Healthcare requesting that no later than April 30, Doe be granted religious and medical exemptions from its COVID-19 vaccination mandate and asked that she be reactivated and placed on the kidney transplant active waiting list.
Religious Convictions
The nine-page letter alleges that every available COVID-19 vaccine is associated with aborted “fetal cell lines.” It cites evidence from the public health departments of North Dakota and Louisiana as proof.Doe, a devout Roman Catholic, is opposed to ingesting or being injected with such vaccines based on her religious beliefs.
The Liberty Counsel also informed Emory Healthcare that there were strong medical reasons for Doe’s refusal to get the vaccine.
Standing on Natural Immunity
The demand letter states that Doe had already recovered from a bout with COVID-19 and that her antibody numbers were actually stronger than those found in many people who were fully vaccinated for 90 days.LC cited several published scientific peer-reviewed studies as evidence.
“Because of her (Doe’s) acquired natural immunity and documented SARS-CoV-2 antibodies and other factors, (Doe) respectfully requests that the Transplant Team and/or Committee permit her to obtain an exemption from the COVID-19 vaccinations because of the risks associated with vaccinating someone with such a high antibody count,” the letter reads.
In an April 20 statement, Liberty Counsel called the risk of blood clots, myocarditis, and other heart issues associated with the COVID-19 vaccines as one of the bases of Doe’s medical objections.
LC also stated the legal position that since there are no Food and Drug Administration-approved COVID shots available and all the current vaccines are under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), Emory can’t lawfully condition providing a transplant upon a patient taking a vaccine.
Citing federal law, LC stated in its letter to Emory that all individuals to whom a EUA product is offered must be informed that they have a choice of whether to take it.
“The statutorily required Fact Sheets for each of the EUA COVID-19 vaccines acknowledge that individuals cannot be compelled to accept or receive the vaccine,” the letter reads.
A Plea for Mercy
“It is unconscionable to deny anyone a religious or medical accommodation from an experimental injection, especially someone who needs an organ transplant,” Liberty Counsel founder and Chairman Mat Staver said in the statement. “Emory should be ashamed of its actions and reverse this unreasonable policy.“Emory needs to do the right action immediately and allow this woman to receive the kidney she needs to save her life.”
On April 24, Emory Healthcare spokesperson Janet Christenbury told The Epoch Times: “We continue to monitor the prevalence of COVID-19 and other respiratory illnesses in our community. Based on these assessments, the Emory Transplant Center currently recommends, but does not require, COVID-19 vaccinations for kidney transplant candidates and kidney transplant recipients. Because of patient privacy rules, we cannot comment on specific patient cases.”
When asked for its response to Emory’s statement, Liberty Counsel’s Senior Litigation Coordinator Deborah Catalano said: “We have been told that the transplant coordinator told her (Doe) that she won’t get on the kidney waiting list without it (the shot). If the patients cannot move forward with the process because they don’t take the COVID vaccine, it’s a requirement rather than a recommendation.”
Emory Healthcare, an affiliate of Emory University in Atlanta, is one of the leading transplant centers in the South.
Doe, a devout Roman Catholic, is opposed to ingesting or being injected with such vaccines based on her religious beliefs.
Didn't the head of the Catholic Church approve the COVID vaccine? What exactly is the opposition? There are many different COVID vaccines out there.
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Antivaxxers are not good candidates for transplants for the simple reason that their chances of survival post transplant are lower than those willing to be vaccinated. After organ transplant, the organ recipient must take anti-rejection drugs to keep the body from rejecting the transplanted organ. The anti-rejection drugs severely compromise the immune system. Being antivax as a mindset says these people are prone to taking unnecessary health risks where pandemic outbreaks are concerned. The risks get very high for the immunocomprimised. The very limited number of available transplant organs can better serve other transplant patients that have better chances of survival.
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@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
Didn't the head of the Catholic Church approve the COVID vaccine?
No need
Every Catholic knows the line
"a devout Roman Catholic, is opposed to ingesting or being injected with such vaccines"
is nonsense.
Almost a silly as Ax's line about serving transplant patients.
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@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
Didn't the head of the Catholic Church approve the COVID vaccine?
No need
Every Catholic knows the line
"a devout Roman Catholic, is opposed to ingesting or being injected with such vaccines"
is nonsense.
Almost a silly as Ax's line about serving transplant patients.
@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
Didn't the head of the Catholic Church approve the COVID vaccine?
No need
Every Catholic knows the line
"a devout Roman Catholic, is opposed to ingesting or being injected with such vaccines"
is nonsense.
Almost a silly as Ax's line about serving transplant patients.
Sorry, I am not sure I understand what you are saying. Not sure if you are agree with the Catholic Church or are against them on this issue.
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The vaccine is now ineffective for the most part.
People like Ax enjoy people dying because they will not bend the knee to the bureaucracy, because it bolsters his authoritarian world view.
Me? I choose Life. Put the woman on the list, treat her like any other kidney transplant patient and put a kidney in her if they have one
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The vaccine is now ineffective for the most part.
People like Ax enjoy people dying because they will not bend the knee to the bureaucracy, because it bolsters his authoritarian world view.
Me? I choose Life. Put the woman on the list, treat her like any other kidney transplant patient and put a kidney in her if they have one
Me? I choose Life.
Perhaps except when it comes to gun control?
Put the woman on the list, treat her like any other kidney transplant patient and put a kidney in her if they have one
A kidney for that woman means one fewer kidney for others on the transplant list, likely one more prudent and more rational when it comes to taking health risks and thus one more likely to survive longer and better if given the same kidney.
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Me? I choose Life.
Perhaps except when it comes to gun control?
Put the woman on the list, treat her like any other kidney transplant patient and put a kidney in her if they have one
A kidney for that woman means one fewer kidney for others on the transplant list, likely one more prudent and more rational when it comes to taking health risks and thus one more likely to survive longer and better if given the same kidney.
Me? I choose Life.
Perhaps except when it comes to gun control?
Put the woman on the list, treat her like any other kidney transplant patient and put a kidney in her if they have one
A kidney for that woman means one fewer kidney for others on the transplant list, likely one more prudent and more rational when it comes to taking health risks and thus one more likely to survive longer and better if given the same kidney.
Where'd you get your medical license? Walmart?
People aren't merely statistics. Maybe to bureaucrats and Nazis, but not in my world.
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Me? I choose Life.
Perhaps except when it comes to gun control?
Put the woman on the list, treat her like any other kidney transplant patient and put a kidney in her if they have one
A kidney for that woman means one fewer kidney for others on the transplant list, likely one more prudent and more rational when it comes to taking health risks and thus one more likely to survive longer and better if given the same kidney.
Where'd you get your medical license? Walmart?
People aren't merely statistics. Maybe to bureaucrats and Nazis, but not in my world.
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Me? I choose Life.
Perhaps except when it comes to gun control?
Put the woman on the list, treat her like any other kidney transplant patient and put a kidney in her if they have one
A kidney for that woman means one fewer kidney for others on the transplant list, likely one more prudent and more rational when it comes to taking health risks and thus one more likely to survive longer and better if given the same kidney.
Me? I choose Life.
Perhaps except when it comes to gun control?
Put the woman on the list, treat her like any other kidney transplant patient and put a kidney in her if they have one
A kidney for that woman means one fewer kidney for others on the transplant list, likely one more prudent and more rational when it comes to taking health risks and thus one more likely to survive longer and better if given the same kidney.
I've had a nice, hot bath and have decided to expound a bit more on this one...
First, why do you own a gun? Who are you scared of? Bad people? The government? Yourself?
Bad people? A person wants to be secure in their possesions, but a lot of people will not kill others over a simple material possesion. People will use deadly force when they or their loved ones are threatened...They choose life. Particularly life they value.
The government? Well, that is a large part of the reason the Second Amendment exits. OTOH, you seem to like government for many things, so I don't know. Either way, it's a freedom issue and subsequently a life issue.
Yourself? What a dumb question, you say. Except I've seen people so scared of suffering or perhaps being a burden to others, they wanted to make sure they had a way to quickly off themselves. That is certainly a life issue, albeit the Death side of the coin.
Now, let's go back to your Walmart medical license...You must be the world's greatest clinician to determine patient tissue matches and organ rejection possibilities, having never looked at or spoken to the patient. You don't know her lifestyle habits (hint: alcoholics don't make good kidney recipients) or whether she will be compliant with post-transplant treatment regimens.
I know the official line is that list placement and transplant scores are made as unbiased as possible, but I also know people are people. When it comes to life and death, sometimes the hard figures get softened.
But about the COVID vaccine...How do you know she's more likely to die within the normal life of the transplant? I submit you don't. Furthermore, knowing Emory like I do, I suspect science has not caught up with their transplant program and they may not know, either.
Consider the data and what we know...
- What is the predominant strain of COVID and how effective is the current COVID vaccine against mortality or serious illness?
- Most Americans have had COVID by now. Does natural immunity exist in this parient? Is that considered?
- What data set is Emory basing their conclusions on? The predominant strain that existed twelve months ago is not the predominant strain today.
- Lastly, what Emory is calling a vaccine is not a vaccine in the traditional sense and life and death decisions should not be made on incomplete or faulty data.
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@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
Didn't the head of the Catholic Church approve the COVID vaccine?
No need
Every Catholic knows the line
"a devout Roman Catholic, is opposed to ingesting or being injected with such vaccines"
is nonsense.
Almost a silly as Ax's line about serving transplant patients.
Sorry, I am not sure I understand what you are saying. Not sure if you are agree with the Catholic Church or are against them on this issue.
@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.
The head of the church did not have to approve the covid vax.
Because his approval is not needed.
Any idea that he would disapprove of it is just plain nonsense.
And the pope does encourage the use of the vax.
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@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.
The head of the church did not have to approve the covid vax.
Because his approval is not needed.
Any idea that he would disapprove of it is just plain nonsense.
And the pope does encourage the use of the vax.
@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.
The head of the church did not have to approve the covid vax.
Because his approval is not needed.
Any idea that he would disapprove of it is just plain nonsense.
And the pope does encourage the use of the vax.
You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
So, do you think that this woman, who is catholic, claiming a religious exemption is correct?
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@taiwan_girl said in Denied:
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.
The head of the church did not have to approve the covid vax.
Because his approval is not needed.
Any idea that he would disapprove of it is just plain nonsense.
And the pope does encourage the use of the vax.
You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
So, do you think that this woman, who is catholic, claiming a religious exemption is correct?
You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
The Maharishi Copperhish Yogi.
Actually TG, some Catholic Archbishops in North America had some initial concerns about the Johnson Johnson vaccine but decided that the common good was best served by taking it if no other vaccine was as available. I do not believe there were any ecclesiastical concerns about the Pfizer or Moderna MNRA vaccines.
So our much venerated resident Swami is not inaccurate, just not telling the whole story as you rightly surmised.
Elbows up!
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You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
The Maharishi Copperhish Yogi.
Actually TG, some Catholic Archbishops in North America had some initial concerns about the Johnson Johnson vaccine but decided that the common good was best served by taking it if no other vaccine was as available. I do not believe there were any ecclesiastical concerns about the Pfizer or Moderna MNRA vaccines.
So our much venerated resident Swami is not inaccurate, just not telling the whole story as you rightly surmised.
You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
The Maharishi Copperhish Yogi.
Actually TG, some Catholic Archbishops in North America had some initial concerns about the Johnson Johnson vaccine but decided that the greater good was best served by taking if no other vaccine was as available. I do not believe there were any ecclesiastical concerns about the Pfizer or Moderna MNRA vaccines.
So our much venerated resident Swami is not inaccurate, just not telling the whole story as you rightly surmised.
I had an employee claim religious exemption, and he was a Roman Catholic. The actual truth was that he didn't want to have the vaccine. Eventually, he saw sense and thus kept his job. I was secretly hoping that he wouldn't, but that's another story.
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You are like the mystic that sits in the mountain cave and gives out wisdom that people must interpret. 555
The Maharishi Copperhish Yogi.
Actually TG, some Catholic Archbishops in North America had some initial concerns about the Johnson Johnson vaccine but decided that the common good was best served by taking it if no other vaccine was as available. I do not believe there were any ecclesiastical concerns about the Pfizer or Moderna MNRA vaccines.
So our much venerated resident Swami is not inaccurate, just not telling the whole story as you rightly surmised.
not telling the whole story
The question concerned the pope.
Did you spend an entire day trying to find an obscure reference by some cleric just so you could write this nonsense?
That is pretty weird.
A religious exemption probably has some legal definition that is likely to have little to do with Roman Catholicism or any other organized religion.
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not telling the whole story
The question concerned the pope.
Did you spend an entire day trying to find an obscure reference by some cleric just so you could write this nonsense?
That is pretty weird.
A religious exemption probably has some legal definition that is likely to have little to do with Roman Catholicism or any other organized religion.
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