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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    It’s taking even longer for the fat man.

    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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      Gonna be a hoot if you have to acknowledge a second Trump administration...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        George K
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        Whistleblower #2

        A second IRS whistleblower in the criminal investigation of first son Hunter Biden emerged Monday in documents sent to Congress following the purge of the entire investigatory team looking into President Biden’s son for tax fraud and related crimes.

        The new whistleblower is a special agent in the IRS’s international tax and financial crimes group and worked on the Hunter Biden case since it was opened in 2018 — until he was ousted without explanation last week.

        The agent joins his supervisor, who plans to testify behind closed doors before the House Ways and Means Committee on Friday, in publicly registering concerns about how the Justice Department has handled the investigation.

        Both IRS whistleblowers expressed concerns internally for years about the case being swept under the rug but got nowhere, and they lay out extensive claims of retaliation in new disclosures to Congress.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Wow. This could be major.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Wow. This could be major.

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            George K
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            @Mik IRS isn't under the DOJ, last time I looked. It's Treasury. Who's pulling the strings. and why?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @Mik IRS isn't under the DOJ, last time I looked. It's Treasury. Who's pulling the strings. and why?

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              @George-K said in Whistleblower:

              @Mik IRS isn't under the DOJ, last time I looked. It's Treasury. Who's pulling the strings. and why?

              Worst kept secret in town...:

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                George K
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  On CBS? There's definitely a story there if they felt they had to publish it.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    On CBS? There's definitely a story there if they felt they had to publish it.

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                    George K
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                    @Mik said in Whistleblower:

                    On CBS?

                    Exactly. I was shocked to see that.

                    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-whistleblower-tax-probe-hunter-biden/

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • JonJ Offline
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                      Jon
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                      They need to get Weiss to testify.

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                        George K
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                        "the Committees will resort to compulsory process to obtain the required testimony..."

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
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                          Shapley, the whistleblower gave a long interview last night.

                          Not much new. He reiterated how, at multiple times, evidence of more serious wrongdoing was stifled and investigations were hindered by prosecutors.

                          Of note:

                          He took notes at the time of his meeting and emailed them to himself to serve as a record of his recollections. So, it's not "yeah, I remember this happened about 5 years ago." Rather, it's "This is important. As soon as I get home, I'm going to write it down and email myself the memo."

                          He acknowledges Weiss's statements that he (Weiss) had full authority. Nevertheless, he says that Weiss said something quite different at the time (as noted in the email).

                          Finally, there are six wintesses, all telling the same story about Weiss saying that he doesn't have authority.

                          Link to video
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            The Bidens belong in jail.

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                              Maybe they will make President Biden and President Trump cell mates. 555

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                                Maybe they will make President Biden and President Trump cell mates. 555

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                                George K
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                                @taiwan_girl said in Whistleblower:

                                Maybe they will make President Biden and President Trump cell mates. 555

                                Wouldn't that make a hell of a sitcom?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Weiss responds.

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                                  " Department of Justice did not retaliate "

                                  I guess removing them from the investigation is not retaliation. It's not like they were fired or anything.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Jon
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                                      #25

                                      Weiss responds to Graham: Never requested special counsel status, never denied the ability to make any charges in any district.

                                      https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000189-403e-d0a8-a59b-dffe47490000

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                                        George K
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                                        As you said, someone's lying.

                                        Shapley said it under oath. Weiss wrote it in a letter. Get Weiss under oath.

                                        https://www.wsj.com/articles/david-weiss-letter-to-lindsey-graham-hunter-biden-congress-gary-shapley-64df990f

                                        Mr. Weiss says he never requested a special-counsel designation, but that he did have “discussions with Departmental officials” about a “potential appointment” as a special attorney.

                                        The latter would have let him “file charges in a district outside my own without the partnership of the local U.S. Attorney.” He says “I was assured that I would be granted this authority if it proved necessary.” This conveniently gels with Attorney General Merrick Garland’s claim that Mr. Weiss never asked for special-counsel status but could have filed charges anywhere.

                                        Yet those claims conflict with the testimony of IRS investigator Gary Shapley. The tax specialist says a team of IRS, FBI and DOJ officials last year were ready to charge Hunter with felony tax offenses in Washington, D.C., and California, but that Mr. Weiss told them in an October meeting that he’d been denied “special counsel authority from Main DOJ” and that he wasn’t “the deciding official on whether charges are filed.” Mr. Weiss last month settled the tax case in Delaware in a deal that will likely let Hunter escape jail time.

                                        Mr. Weiss’s letter doesn’t say if that’s what he told Mr. Shapley and the others in October. It also doesn’t answer whether U.S. Attorneys appointed by President Biden blocked Mr. Weiss from filing charges against Hunter in their D.C. and California districts. That’s Mr. Shapley’s claim, and the New York Times reports that it has confirmed the California story.

                                        That undermines Mr. Garland’s claim that the probe was free of political interference. If Mr. Weiss did have the freedom to ask for special-attorney privileges, why didn’t he pursue the charges that his team spent years investigating and recommended?

                                        In his letter Mr. Weiss again refused to discuss anything further about his “ongoing investigation.” But if he’s settled the case, why is it “ongoing”? Congress is right to demand that Mr. Weiss answer its questions.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          As you said, someone's lying.

                                          Shapley said it under oath. Weiss wrote it in a letter. Get Weiss under oath.

                                          https://www.wsj.com/articles/david-weiss-letter-to-lindsey-graham-hunter-biden-congress-gary-shapley-64df990f

                                          Mr. Weiss says he never requested a special-counsel designation, but that he did have “discussions with Departmental officials” about a “potential appointment” as a special attorney.

                                          The latter would have let him “file charges in a district outside my own without the partnership of the local U.S. Attorney.” He says “I was assured that I would be granted this authority if it proved necessary.” This conveniently gels with Attorney General Merrick Garland’s claim that Mr. Weiss never asked for special-counsel status but could have filed charges anywhere.

                                          Yet those claims conflict with the testimony of IRS investigator Gary Shapley. The tax specialist says a team of IRS, FBI and DOJ officials last year were ready to charge Hunter with felony tax offenses in Washington, D.C., and California, but that Mr. Weiss told them in an October meeting that he’d been denied “special counsel authority from Main DOJ” and that he wasn’t “the deciding official on whether charges are filed.” Mr. Weiss last month settled the tax case in Delaware in a deal that will likely let Hunter escape jail time.

                                          Mr. Weiss’s letter doesn’t say if that’s what he told Mr. Shapley and the others in October. It also doesn’t answer whether U.S. Attorneys appointed by President Biden blocked Mr. Weiss from filing charges against Hunter in their D.C. and California districts. That’s Mr. Shapley’s claim, and the New York Times reports that it has confirmed the California story.

                                          That undermines Mr. Garland’s claim that the probe was free of political interference. If Mr. Weiss did have the freedom to ask for special-attorney privileges, why didn’t he pursue the charges that his team spent years investigating and recommended?

                                          In his letter Mr. Weiss again refused to discuss anything further about his “ongoing investigation.” But if he’s settled the case, why is it “ongoing”? Congress is right to demand that Mr. Weiss answer its questions.

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                                          @George-K said in Whistleblower:

                                          Shapley said it under oath. Weiss wrote it in a letter. Get Weiss under oath.

                                          Yeppers.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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