Trump's Taxes

[Renauda]

How I judge the outcome is of no consequence. Suffice to say though that unless my values radically change between now and then, I probably won't like it.

[Horace]

The important question is what would the viable alternative be. Not liking the best of the available choices is to be expected.

[Renauda]

You tell me, but it's what the rabble craves most. It would seem to me that at the moment that craving is well served by slogans of MAGA and Draining the Swamp. All things considered, slogans get the attention of the masses.

[Horace]

@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

You tell me, but it's what the rabble craves most. It would seem to me that at the moment that craving is well served by slogans of MAGA and Draining the Swamp. All things considered, slogans get the attention of the masses.

I often suffer from a lack of personal acquaintance with the right wing rabble of which you and others speak. My life experience with politically unreasonable folk has been with the woke. They haven't always been called that, but they've always been around. Trump got in by the skin of his teeth with a general appeal that had to do with that distaste for the woke, more than "MAGA" and "draining the swamp", in my opinion. But American pop culture is moving away from even that aspect of his appeal. I don't think any Trump slogan or any right wing sloganeering will ever be more culturally powerful than the messaging of the left which has infected generations of minds, that the left is the Good side of an eternal Good vs Evil struggle, and you will never have to personally sacrifice for your simple act of teaming up with the Good.

[Renauda]

I have some acquaintance with the toiling rabble and at best find it only capable of attaining a trade union level of conciousness. Otherwise it is a reactionary mob in desperate need of direction and sound leadership.

[Horace]

There are reactionary mobs to go around aplenty. I know which ones I have personal experience with and observations of, and I know the direction of pop culture's inexorable shift.

[Renauda]

The current pop culture rumbling is nothing more than immaturity masquerading as enlightenment. Donkeys led by fools, if you like. The system will absorb and pacify as it always has in past.

[Catseye3]

@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

. . . nothing more more immaturity masquerading as enlightenment.

And not that effectively, may I add. Your prediction that "the system will absorb and pacify as it always has in the past" is like a beacon in the darkness.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Catseye3 said in Trump's Taxes:

@Renauda said in Trump's Taxes:

. . . nothing more more immaturity masquerading as enlightenment.

Your prediction that "the system will absorb and pacify as it always has in the past" is like a beacon in the darkness.

You won't say that come the 18 Brumaire prediction. Personally, I find a small embossed card with a maple-leaf imprinted on it to be my light in the darkness.

[Catseye3]

@Doctor-Phibes Hey, we're talking 12 years from now. Think positive!

[Horace]

The internet places messaging power into the hands of pop culture moreso than a centralized authority. I think it will be difficult to reprogram the population away from the generations of messaging and education of the left. To the extent that Renauda's prediction relies on an ability of the government to take control of messaging and make it right wing, I put a zero percent chance on that in 12 years.

[Renauda]

That sounds like defeatism. How bourgeois.