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  • HoraceH Horace

    Most COVID hawks' opinions are indistinguishable from "everybody needs to stay home and everything needs to remain closed until we figure this COVID thing out, and no, I don't know if or when we'll ever figure this COVID thing out".

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @Horace said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

    Most COVID hawks' opinions are indistinguishable from "everybody needs to stay home and everything needs to remain closed until we figure this COVID thing out, and no, I don't know if or when we'll ever figure this COVID thing out".

    A reasonable person would say that either extreme is unsustainable. Everything doesn't need to fully open, and everything doesn't need to stay closed.

    I was only joking

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      But opening schools now is a brain-dead move? Or is it a reasonable thing to want to do?

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        But opening schools now is a brain-dead move? Or is it a reasonable thing to want to do?

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        Loki
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        @Horace said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

        But opening schools now is a brain-dead move? Or is it a reasonable thing to want to do?

        Depends on before or after the election. Can’t wait for Biden’s real position on these matters.

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          Rainman
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          One hope is that with schools closed, online learning will clarify exactly what is being taught, outside of the bias of the school/classroom. Speaking of public K-12, not college, but the same may apply.

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          • L Loki

            Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

            Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

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            Aqua Letifer
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            @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

            Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

            Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

            Yes, because let's make public health decisions based on how kids feel about being at home.

            We can't stay shut down, and many institutions and businesses need to reopen. But how someone feels about not getting to do what they'd like has absolutely nothing to do with public safety.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

              Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

              Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

              Yes, because let's make public health decisions based on how kids feel about being at home.

              We can't stay shut down, and many institutions and businesses need to reopen. But how someone feels about not getting to do what they'd like has absolutely nothing to do with public safety.

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              @Aqua-Letifer said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

              @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

              Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

              Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

              Yes, because let's make public health decisions based on how kids feel about being at home.

              We can't stay shut down, and many institutions and businesses need to reopen. But how someone feels about not getting to do what they'd like has absolutely nothing to do with public safety.

              The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.

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                @Aqua-Letifer said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

                Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

                Yes, because let's make public health decisions based on how kids feel about being at home.

                We can't stay shut down, and many institutions and businesses need to reopen. But how someone feels about not getting to do what they'd like has absolutely nothing to do with public safety.

                The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.

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                @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.

                Young people think they're going to live forever. Combine that with their solipsism and yes, of course that's what they're going to do. Which still has nothing to do with how to make policy about public safety.

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                  The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.

                  Young people think they're going to live forever. Combine that with their solipsism and yes, of course that's what they're going to do. Which still has nothing to do with how to make policy about public safety.

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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                  @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                  The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.

                  Young people think they're going to live forever. Combine that with their solipsism and yes, of course that's what they're going to do. Which still has nothing to do with how to make policy about public safety.

                  To be clear I think the threat in funding cuts is just bluster and will never happen and is not good policy.

                  It will be interesting to see how many colleges fail in the short run and what their enrollment really looks like in the fall. I know they are already crushed I just don’t know if it gets worse when they announce distance learning. No one is paying a premium for that, you find that real cheap.

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                    Honestly, due to the crap they're currently pumping out, a little financial hardship and lower student numbers wouldn't be such a bad thing.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      Swedish model. Take a look at school transmission.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        Honestly, due to the crap they're currently pumping out, a little financial hardship and lower student numbers wouldn't be such a bad thing.

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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                        Honestly, due to the crap they're currently pumping out, a little financial hardship and lower student numbers wouldn't be such a bad thing.

                        This whole going to college as a four year transition to adulthood will likely be reinvisioned. Kitchen table family discussions on price where already gaining traction but no being on campus will bring that discussion to a brand new level.
                        Part of what parents were buying was “the experience”.

                        As an analogy, if you sent your kid to private school for k-12 and paying 35k a year, aren’t you going to just pull them back to public school until they can be on campus. I would think enough would do that to really harm that private school.

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                          It sounds like it is time to reinstate the draft.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            This isn’t about colleges it’s about K-12.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Some young people do something and suddenly we know how 'The young' feel about things?

                              There's plenty of happy teenagers hacking away at keyboards playing computer games in their bedrooms right at this moment.

                              At least, I hope that's what he's doing.

                              I was only joking

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                                Heh.

                                As Kayleigh McEnany leaves the podium, White House reporter Brian Karem shouts this question: "Kayleigh, if it's safe to send people back to schools, is it safe to send Manafort back to prison?"

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  This isn’t about colleges it’s about K-12.

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                                  Copper
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                                  This isn’t about colleges it’s about K-12.

                                  @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                                  This whole going to college as a four year transition to adulthood will likely be reinvisioned.

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                                    Accredited diploma mills. Easy to pass courses when learning from home. Inflated grades, eventually a degree with less work. Why not?

                                    Thanks, Harvard!

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