Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open
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the education establishment should be very careful with distance learning. Separating the alleged education product from the experience might cause people to open their eyes to just how absurd it is to pay that much for the opportunity to read a text book and take a few tests that could be graded by a computer.
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@Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:
Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.
Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?
In my personal experience, of which I have some, they also don't want to catch Covid.
Forcing colleges to fully open isn't going to solve all their problems like some big orange magic bullet.
Normal people (i.e. those of who aren't President of the United States), don't have the luxury of forcing everybody we meet to be tested for Covid.
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@Horace said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:
Most COVID hawks' opinions are indistinguishable from "everybody needs to stay home and everything needs to remain closed until we figure this COVID thing out, and no, I don't know if or when we'll ever figure this COVID thing out".
A reasonable person would say that either extreme is unsustainable. Everything doesn't need to fully open, and everything doesn't need to stay closed.
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@Horace said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:
But opening schools now is a brain-dead move? Or is it a reasonable thing to want to do?
Depends on before or after the election. Can’t wait for Biden’s real position on these matters.
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@Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:
Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.
Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?
Yes, because let's make public health decisions based on how kids feel about being at home.
We can't stay shut down, and many institutions and businesses need to reopen. But how someone feels about not getting to do what they'd like has absolutely nothing to do with public safety.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:
@Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:
Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.
Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?
Yes, because let's make public health decisions based on how kids feel about being at home.
We can't stay shut down, and many institutions and businesses need to reopen. But how someone feels about not getting to do what they'd like has absolutely nothing to do with public safety.
The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.
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@Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:
The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.
Young people think they're going to live forever. Combine that with their solipsism and yes, of course that's what they're going to do. Which still has nothing to do with how to make policy about public safety.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:
@Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:
The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.
Young people think they're going to live forever. Combine that with their solipsism and yes, of course that's what they're going to do. Which still has nothing to do with how to make policy about public safety.
To be clear I think the threat in funding cuts is just bluster and will never happen and is not good policy.
It will be interesting to see how many colleges fail in the short run and what their enrollment really looks like in the fall. I know they are already crushed I just don’t know if it gets worse when they announce distance learning. No one is paying a premium for that, you find that real cheap.
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Honestly, due to the crap they're currently pumping out, a little financial hardship and lower student numbers wouldn't be such a bad thing.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:
Honestly, due to the crap they're currently pumping out, a little financial hardship and lower student numbers wouldn't be such a bad thing.
This whole going to college as a four year transition to adulthood will likely be reinvisioned. Kitchen table family discussions on price where already gaining traction but no being on campus will bring that discussion to a brand new level.
Part of what parents were buying was “the experience”.As an analogy, if you sent your kid to private school for k-12 and paying 35k a year, aren’t you going to just pull them back to public school until they can be on campus. I would think enough would do that to really harm that private school.
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Some young people do something and suddenly we know how 'The young' feel about things?
There's plenty of happy teenagers hacking away at keyboards playing computer games in their bedrooms right at this moment.
At least, I hope that's what he's doing.
