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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #4

    the education establishment should be very careful with distance learning. Separating the alleged education product from the experience might cause people to open their eyes to just how absurd it is to pay that much for the opportunity to read a text book and take a few tests that could be graded by a computer.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • CopperC Offline
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      Copper
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      #5

      Genius

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      • L Loki

        Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

        Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

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        Doctor Phibes
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        #6

        @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

        Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

        Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

        In my personal experience, of which I have some, they also don't want to catch Covid.

        Forcing colleges to fully open isn't going to solve all their problems like some big orange magic bullet.

        Normal people (i.e. those of who aren't President of the United States), don't have the luxury of forcing everybody we meet to be tested for Covid.

        I was only joking

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          #7

          Most COVID hawks' opinions are indistinguishable from "everybody needs to stay home and everything needs to remain closed until we figure this COVID thing out, and no, I don't know if or when we'll ever figure this COVID thing out".

          Education is extremely important.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            Idiot.

            LarryL Offline
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            Larry
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            #8

            @Axtremus said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

            Idiot.

            You'd know one....

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            • HoraceH Horace

              Most COVID hawks' opinions are indistinguishable from "everybody needs to stay home and everything needs to remain closed until we figure this COVID thing out, and no, I don't know if or when we'll ever figure this COVID thing out".

              Doctor PhibesD Online
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #9

              @Horace said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

              Most COVID hawks' opinions are indistinguishable from "everybody needs to stay home and everything needs to remain closed until we figure this COVID thing out, and no, I don't know if or when we'll ever figure this COVID thing out".

              A reasonable person would say that either extreme is unsustainable. Everything doesn't need to fully open, and everything doesn't need to stay closed.

              I was only joking

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                But opening schools now is a brain-dead move? Or is it a reasonable thing to want to do?

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  But opening schools now is a brain-dead move? Or is it a reasonable thing to want to do?

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                  @Horace said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                  But opening schools now is a brain-dead move? Or is it a reasonable thing to want to do?

                  Depends on before or after the election. Can’t wait for Biden’s real position on these matters.

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                  • RainmanR Offline
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                    Rainman
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                    One hope is that with schools closed, online learning will clarify exactly what is being taught, outside of the bias of the school/classroom. Speaking of public K-12, not college, but the same may apply.

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                    • L Loki

                      Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

                      Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

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                      #13

                      @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                      Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

                      Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

                      Yes, because let's make public health decisions based on how kids feel about being at home.

                      We can't stay shut down, and many institutions and businesses need to reopen. But how someone feels about not getting to do what they'd like has absolutely nothing to do with public safety.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                        Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

                        Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

                        Yes, because let's make public health decisions based on how kids feel about being at home.

                        We can't stay shut down, and many institutions and businesses need to reopen. But how someone feels about not getting to do what they'd like has absolutely nothing to do with public safety.

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                        Loki
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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                        @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                        Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

                        Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

                        Yes, because let's make public health decisions based on how kids feel about being at home.

                        We can't stay shut down, and many institutions and businesses need to reopen. But how someone feels about not getting to do what they'd like has absolutely nothing to do with public safety.

                        The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.

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                        • L Loki

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                          @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                          Talk to any kids who are not going to college now? Ask them how they feel about. I hear a fair amount of people absolutely crushed and they are not from red states.

                          Who wants to pay a premium for tele education? Who wants to live at home?

                          Yes, because let's make public health decisions based on how kids feel about being at home.

                          We can't stay shut down, and many institutions and businesses need to reopen. But how someone feels about not getting to do what they'd like has absolutely nothing to do with public safety.

                          The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                          The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.

                          Young people think they're going to live forever. Combine that with their solipsism and yes, of course that's what they're going to do. Which still has nothing to do with how to make policy about public safety.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                            The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.

                            Young people think they're going to live forever. Combine that with their solipsism and yes, of course that's what they're going to do. Which still has nothing to do with how to make policy about public safety.

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                            Loki
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                            #16

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                            @Loki said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                            The young have already showed us how they feel about the shutdown, hence the spike. Good luck keeping them indoors and stuck with their parents.

                            Young people think they're going to live forever. Combine that with their solipsism and yes, of course that's what they're going to do. Which still has nothing to do with how to make policy about public safety.

                            To be clear I think the threat in funding cuts is just bluster and will never happen and is not good policy.

                            It will be interesting to see how many colleges fail in the short run and what their enrollment really looks like in the fall. I know they are already crushed I just don’t know if it gets worse when they announce distance learning. No one is paying a premium for that, you find that real cheap.

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              #17

                              Honestly, due to the crap they're currently pumping out, a little financial hardship and lower student numbers wouldn't be such a bad thing.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
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                                Swedish model. Take a look at school transmission.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  Honestly, due to the crap they're currently pumping out, a little financial hardship and lower student numbers wouldn't be such a bad thing.

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                                  Loki
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                                  #19

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Trump threatens to cut off funding to schools that don’t fully open:

                                  Honestly, due to the crap they're currently pumping out, a little financial hardship and lower student numbers wouldn't be such a bad thing.

                                  This whole going to college as a four year transition to adulthood will likely be reinvisioned. Kitchen table family discussions on price where already gaining traction but no being on campus will bring that discussion to a brand new level.
                                  Part of what parents were buying was “the experience”.

                                  As an analogy, if you sent your kid to private school for k-12 and paying 35k a year, aren’t you going to just pull them back to public school until they can be on campus. I would think enough would do that to really harm that private school.

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                                    It sounds like it is time to reinstate the draft.

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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #21

                                      This isn’t about colleges it’s about K-12.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                        Some young people do something and suddenly we know how 'The young' feel about things?

                                        There's plenty of happy teenagers hacking away at keyboards playing computer games in their bedrooms right at this moment.

                                        At least, I hope that's what he's doing.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          Heh.

                                          As Kayleigh McEnany leaves the podium, White House reporter Brian Karem shouts this question: "Kayleigh, if it's safe to send people back to schools, is it safe to send Manafort back to prison?"

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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