Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. Taibbi leaves Twitter

Taibbi leaves Twitter

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
46 Posts 9 Posters 493 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • George KG Offline
    George KG Offline
    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/04/07/twitter-files-journalist-quits-platform-after-elon-musk-places-restrictions-on-substack/?sh=106317ea4fac

    Matt Taibbi, a journalist who worked on the “Twitter Files” series of articles about old business decisions at Twitter, has said he’ll no longer use the social media platform. Taibbi is apparently frustrated by Twitter’s recent decision to heavily restrict all links and tweets about Substack following that company’s announcement it would be launching Substack Notes, a short form social network and potential competitor to Twitter.

    Any Twitter user who even tries to retweet a post from Substack is met with a notification, “some actions on this Tweet have been disabled by Twitter,” a move that has angered many users, including Taibbi.

    “Earlier this afternoon, I learned Substack links were being blocked on Twitter. Since being able to share my articles is a primary reason I use Twitter, I was alarmed and asked what was going on,” Taibbi wrote at his Substack on Friday afternoon.

    “It turns out Twitter is upset about the new Substack Notes feature, which they see as a hostile rival. When I asked how I was supposed to market my work, I was given the option of posting my articles on Twitter instead of Substack,” Taibbi continued.

    Taibbi decided it simply wasn’t worth it to stick around at Twitter if he can’t post links to his work at Substack and announced “early next week I’ll be using the new Substack Notes feature” instead of Twitter.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

    1 Reply Last reply
    • AxtremusA Offline
      AxtremusA Offline
      Axtremus
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      That has been Twitter's fate for a long time -- a tool used to promote contents hosted somewhere else where revenues are generated.

      Maybe Elon will succeed at changing it, maybe not. We shall see.

      1 Reply Last reply
      • jon-nycJ Offline
        jon-nycJ Offline
        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Elon will backtrack for a while, create a long-form product with a subscription model, and reimpose the restriction, this time having a substack alternative. It could easily work - it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
        George KG 1 Reply Last reply
        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Elon will backtrack for a while, create a long-form product with a subscription model, and reimpose the restriction, this time having a substack alternative. It could easily work - it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter.

          George KG Offline
          George KG Offline
          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

          it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter

          Substack is basically this year's version of blogger or any other platform for long-term essays, right?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

          AxtremusA jon-nycJ 2 Replies Last reply
          • George KG George K

            @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

            it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter

            Substack is basically this year's version of blogger or any other platform for long-term essays, right?

            AxtremusA Offline
            AxtremusA Offline
            Axtremus
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @George-K , that's certainly a good way to look at it. The revenue models are different though. Substack takes a cut off subscriptions. Blogger does affiliated marketing (make money through displaying ads). I get the impression that Substack articles are usually longer than blog posts.

            1 Reply Last reply
            • George KG George K

              @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

              it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter

              Substack is basically this year's version of blogger or any other platform for long-term essays, right?

              jon-nycJ Offline
              jon-nycJ Offline
              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

              @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

              it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter

              Substack is basically this year's version of blogger or any other platform for long-term essays, right?

              Exactly. No network effect, no social graph. They may have played with implementing these things but to no avail. Writers like it for the subscription model and generous early deals.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
              Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
              • jon-nycJ Offline
                jon-nycJ Offline
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Oh my, I just clicked on a substack link on Twitter and Elon gave me this:

                94247ADC-ADBD-43AF-BB1B-5C1A3E016569.png

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Oh my, I just clicked on a substack link on Twitter and Elon gave me this:

                  94247ADC-ADBD-43AF-BB1B-5C1A3E016569.png

                  AxtremusA Offline
                  AxtremusA Offline
                  Axtremus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @jon-nyc Have you tried "ignore this warning and continue"?

                  jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @jon-nyc Have you tried "ignore this warning and continue"?

                    jon-nycJ Offline
                    jon-nycJ Offline
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @Axtremus Yes and it takes you to substack. Oh the horror!

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                    1 Reply Last reply
                    • jon-nycJ Offline
                      jon-nycJ Offline
                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                      1 Reply Last reply
                      • jon-nycJ Offline
                        jon-nycJ Offline
                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        My prediction is Elon will reverse this by tomorrow, latest,

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                        George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          My prediction is Elon will reverse this by tomorrow, latest,

                          George KG Offline
                          George KG Offline
                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @jon-nyc i agree.

                          Wasn't there a time, shortly after Musk's takeover, that you couldn't link to outside sources?

                          Perhaps this is a bug, and not a feature, after all.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                          jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
                          • George KG George K

                            @jon-nyc i agree.

                            Wasn't there a time, shortly after Musk's takeover, that you couldn't link to outside sources?

                            Perhaps this is a bug, and not a feature, after all.

                            jon-nycJ Offline
                            jon-nycJ Offline
                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @George-K

                            He suspended people for linking to competitors. Somehow that caught Paul Graham and Elon reversed it hours later.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                            1 Reply Last reply
                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                              @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                              it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter

                              Substack is basically this year's version of blogger or any other platform for long-term essays, right?

                              Exactly. No network effect, no social graph. They may have played with implementing these things but to no avail. Writers like it for the subscription model and generous early deals.

                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                              @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                              @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                              it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter

                              Substack is basically this year's version of blogger or any other platform for long-term essays, right?

                              Exactly. No network effect, no social graph. They may have played with implementing these things but to no avail.

                              They're still experimenting with this. The numbers are gradually tipping to discovery rather than referrals.

                              They also have a podcasting and chat function that's getting interesting.

                              Please love yourself.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              • jon-nycJ Offline
                                jon-nycJ Offline
                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                Josh Barro brings up the Streisand effect of this move.

                                You may have heard that Substack will soon be launching a feature called Notes, which will be a place to “post short-form content and share ideas… including posts, quotes, comments, images, and links.” In other words, the feature will be very similar to Twitter. You will even be able to “restack” another writer’s note.

                                The reason you may have heard is probably not that you saw Substack’s Wednesday announcement that Notes is coming. I mean, maybe you did — maybe it came to your inbox because you’re a big fan of Substack qua Substack and so you subscribe to Substack’s substack about Substack, On Substack. But probably not. I’m guessing if you heard, it’s because Substack’s announcement made Elon Musk mad, and he used Twitter to retaliate.

                                I suspect that’s true for everyone here.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                                Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
                                • LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Anybody have a subscription? I’m thinking about it.

                                  The Brad

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
                                    jon-nycJ Offline
                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    I subscribe to a few folks on substack

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    • HoraceH Offline
                                      HoraceH Offline
                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      I subscribe to Glenn Loury there but I end up consuming his stuff through youtube.

                                      Education is extremely important.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      • George KG Offline
                                        George KG Offline
                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Josh Barro brings up the Streisand effect of this move.

                                          You may have heard that Substack will soon be launching a feature called Notes, which will be a place to “post short-form content and share ideas… including posts, quotes, comments, images, and links.” In other words, the feature will be very similar to Twitter. You will even be able to “restack” another writer’s note.

                                          The reason you may have heard is probably not that you saw Substack’s Wednesday announcement that Notes is coming. I mean, maybe you did — maybe it came to your inbox because you’re a big fan of Substack qua Substack and so you subscribe to Substack’s substack about Substack, On Substack. But probably not. I’m guessing if you heard, it’s because Substack’s announcement made Elon Musk mad, and he used Twitter to retaliate.

                                          I suspect that’s true for everyone here.

                                          Doctor PhibesD Online
                                          Doctor PhibesD Online
                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          Josh Barro brings up the Streisand effect of this move.

                                          You may have heard that Substack will soon be launching a feature called Notes, which will be a place to “post short-form content and share ideas… including posts, quotes, comments, images, and links.” In other words, the feature will be very similar to Twitter. You will even be able to “restack” another writer’s note.

                                          The reason you may have heard is probably not that you saw Substack’s Wednesday announcement that Notes is coming. I mean, maybe you did — maybe it came to your inbox because you’re a big fan of Substack qua Substack and so you subscribe to Substack’s substack about Substack, On Substack. But probably not. I’m guessing if you heard, it’s because Substack’s announcement made Elon Musk mad, and he used Twitter to retaliate.

                                          I suspect that’s true for everyone here.

                                          I had literally never heard of Substack until Elon did this.

                                          I was only joking

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups