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  • George KG George K

    @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

    it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter

    Substack is basically this year's version of blogger or any other platform for long-term essays, right?

    AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    @George-K , that's certainly a good way to look at it. The revenue models are different though. Substack takes a cut off subscriptions. Blogger does affiliated marketing (make money through displaying ads). I get the impression that Substack articles are usually longer than blog posts.

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    • George KG George K

      @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

      it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter

      Substack is basically this year's version of blogger or any other platform for long-term essays, right?

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

      @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

      it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter

      Substack is basically this year's version of blogger or any other platform for long-term essays, right?

      Exactly. No network effect, no social graph. They may have played with implementing these things but to no avail. Writers like it for the subscription model and generous early deals.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        Oh my, I just clicked on a substack link on Twitter and Elon gave me this:

        94247ADC-ADBD-43AF-BB1B-5C1A3E016569.png

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Oh my, I just clicked on a substack link on Twitter and Elon gave me this:

          94247ADC-ADBD-43AF-BB1B-5C1A3E016569.png

          AxtremusA Away
          AxtremusA Away
          Axtremus
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          @jon-nyc Have you tried "ignore this warning and continue"?

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @jon-nyc Have you tried "ignore this warning and continue"?

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            @Axtremus Yes and it takes you to substack. Oh the horror!

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              jon-nyc
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              #10

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                jon-nyc
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                #11

                My prediction is Elon will reverse this by tomorrow, latest,

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  My prediction is Elon will reverse this by tomorrow, latest,

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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  @jon-nyc i agree.

                  Wasn't there a time, shortly after Musk's takeover, that you couldn't link to outside sources?

                  Perhaps this is a bug, and not a feature, after all.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @jon-nyc i agree.

                    Wasn't there a time, shortly after Musk's takeover, that you couldn't link to outside sources?

                    Perhaps this is a bug, and not a feature, after all.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    @George-K

                    He suspended people for linking to competitors. Somehow that caught Paul Graham and Elon reversed it hours later.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                      @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                      it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter

                      Substack is basically this year's version of blogger or any other platform for long-term essays, right?

                      Exactly. No network effect, no social graph. They may have played with implementing these things but to no avail. Writers like it for the subscription model and generous early deals.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                      @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                      @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                      it’s a lot easier to create substack than to create Twitter

                      Substack is basically this year's version of blogger or any other platform for long-term essays, right?

                      Exactly. No network effect, no social graph. They may have played with implementing these things but to no avail.

                      They're still experimenting with this. The numbers are gradually tipping to discovery rather than referrals.

                      They also have a podcasting and chat function that's getting interesting.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        Josh Barro brings up the Streisand effect of this move.

                        You may have heard that Substack will soon be launching a feature called Notes, which will be a place to “post short-form content and share ideas… including posts, quotes, comments, images, and links.” In other words, the feature will be very similar to Twitter. You will even be able to “restack” another writer’s note.

                        The reason you may have heard is probably not that you saw Substack’s Wednesday announcement that Notes is coming. I mean, maybe you did — maybe it came to your inbox because you’re a big fan of Substack qua Substack and so you subscribe to Substack’s substack about Substack, On Substack. But probably not. I’m guessing if you heard, it’s because Substack’s announcement made Elon Musk mad, and he used Twitter to retaliate.

                        I suspect that’s true for everyone here.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #16

                          Anybody have a subscription? I’m thinking about it.

                          The Brad

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            I subscribe to a few folks on substack

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              Horace
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                              #18

                              I subscribe to Glenn Loury there but I end up consuming his stuff through youtube.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Josh Barro brings up the Streisand effect of this move.

                                  You may have heard that Substack will soon be launching a feature called Notes, which will be a place to “post short-form content and share ideas… including posts, quotes, comments, images, and links.” In other words, the feature will be very similar to Twitter. You will even be able to “restack” another writer’s note.

                                  The reason you may have heard is probably not that you saw Substack’s Wednesday announcement that Notes is coming. I mean, maybe you did — maybe it came to your inbox because you’re a big fan of Substack qua Substack and so you subscribe to Substack’s substack about Substack, On Substack. But probably not. I’m guessing if you heard, it’s because Substack’s announcement made Elon Musk mad, and he used Twitter to retaliate.

                                  I suspect that’s true for everyone here.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                  Josh Barro brings up the Streisand effect of this move.

                                  You may have heard that Substack will soon be launching a feature called Notes, which will be a place to “post short-form content and share ideas… including posts, quotes, comments, images, and links.” In other words, the feature will be very similar to Twitter. You will even be able to “restack” another writer’s note.

                                  The reason you may have heard is probably not that you saw Substack’s Wednesday announcement that Notes is coming. I mean, maybe you did — maybe it came to your inbox because you’re a big fan of Substack qua Substack and so you subscribe to Substack’s substack about Substack, On Substack. But probably not. I’m guessing if you heard, it’s because Substack’s announcement made Elon Musk mad, and he used Twitter to retaliate.

                                  I suspect that’s true for everyone here.

                                  I had literally never heard of Substack until Elon did this.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by George K
                                    #21

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #22

                                      Musky seems to be thrashing around a bit here.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Copper
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                                        #23

                                        Mr. Musk should buy Substack, immediately.

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                                        • CopperC Copper

                                          Mr. Musk should buy Substack, immediately.

                                          AxtremusA Away
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                                          Axtremus
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                                          #24

                                          @Copper said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          Mr. Musk should buy Substack, immediately.

                                          For $420 a share?

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