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Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    The Notorious RBG.

    When the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg accepted a $1 million prize from a liberal billionaire’s foundation, she pledged to pass the money to a list of designated charities. Four years later, it is unclear where Ginsburg sent that money—an ambiguity that experts say raises conflict of interest concerns.

    The Berggruen Institute, a private foundation founded by billionaire investor Nicolas Berggruen, awarded Ginsburg its annual $1 million Philosophy & Culture award during a swanky star-studded event in December 2019. At the time, ethics experts raised red flags over Ginsburg’s acceptance of the prize, noting that the bounty far exceeded the $2,000 limit placed on honoraria by Judicial Conference regulations. But Ginsburg temporarily assuaged those concerns when she pledged to donate the prize money to more than 60 charities that reflected her personal causes, including the American Bar Foundation, the American Cancer Society, and the Metropolitan Opera.

    What Ginsburg failed to mention was that she also directed the Berggruen Institute to conceal the full list of her designated charities from the public, a spokeswoman for the institute told the Washington Free Beacon. The Berggruen Institute even engaged in some creative accounting in its Form 990 tax return to ensure the recipients remain shrouded in secrecy.

    "That list, per her wishes, is not for publication," Berggruen Institute spokeswoman Rachel Bauch told the Free Beacon.

    Experts say the lack of transparency surrounding Ginsburg’s $1 million prize raises the possibility that some of the recipients could have had business before the court prior to Ginsburg’s death. One of the few known recipients, the American Bar Foundation, is affiliated with the American Bar Association, which filed several amicus briefs before the Supreme Court in 2020 before Ginsburg’s death. There is no evidence that Ginsburg recused herself from those cases.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #142

      From a lefty's perspective, it's difficult to even wrap one's mind around the damage RBG did by not retiring. She traded a tiny bit of ego gratification to stay on for a couple more years, for an unbalanced court that's ruling against everything her side fought for. She had one job, there at the end. And for all her alleged qualities as a human being, she failed a really simple test of character. It's nearly dispositive of the woman being anything other than a narcissistic social climber. Then again, she was old and perhaps senile. The higher qualities of the mind are the first to go.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        #143

        Or perhaps she simply thought SCOTUS retirements and appointments ought not be subject to such political chicanery.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          Or perhaps she simply thought SCOTUS retirements and appointments ought not be subject to such political chicanery.

          HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #144

          @Mik said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

          Or perhaps she simply thought SCOTUS retirements and appointments ought not be subject to such political chicanery.

          I don’t think any reasonable person would have considered her retirement to be chicanery.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            #145

            You've never been appointed to a life-long position of power either.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              You've never been appointed to a life-long position of power either.

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              Horace
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              #146

              @Mik said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

              You've never been appointed to a life-long position of power either.

              I'm comfortable with my opinion that it was a weak move on her part. What's your opinion?

              Education is extremely important.

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by Mik
                #147

                I think you are right if you only view it from the perspective of the political and judicial power of her tribe. As I stated above, there are other ways to look at it and she perhaps subscribed to one or the other. In my view to have done so would have been declaring an alignment with the Democratic party as opposed to being a jurist supposedly above that bipartisan fray. I think it would have been unseemly for a SCOTUS justice.

                We've had enough mixed opinions on this court to determine that it is difficult to predict which way they might rule. Isn't that what we want, or do we want a rubberstamp court?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  I think you are right if you only view it from the perspective of the political and judicial power of her tribe. As I stated above, there are other ways to look at it and she perhaps subscribed to one or the other. In my view to have done so would have been declaring an alignment with the Democratic party as opposed to being a jurist supposedly above that bipartisan fray. I think it would have been unseemly for a SCOTUS justice.

                  We've had enough mixed opinions on this court to determine that it is difficult to predict which way they might rule. Isn't that what we want, or do we want a rubberstamp court?

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #148

                  @Mik said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

                  I think you are right if you only view it from the perspective of the political and judicial power of her tribe. As I stated above, there are other ways to look at it and she perhaps subscribed to one or the other. In my view to have done so would have been declaring an alignment with the Democratic party as opposed to being a jurist supposedly above that bipartisan fray. I think it would have been unseemly for a SCOTUS justice.

                  Justices are aligned with the social values of the party that nominated them. That's why they were nominated. Our most recent nomination couldn't define what a woman was. That's because she is well aware of why she was nominated, and what she was expected to say. She knew the culture she represented.

                  We've had enough mixed opinions on this court to determine that it is difficult to predict which way they might rule. Isn't that what we want, or do we want a rubberstamp court?

                  It wasn't difficult to predict which way they'd rule on the culture war issues, such as affirmative action, gay marriage custom websites, and school debt. It was right down ideological lines in all three cases.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    I think you are confusing the obviously partisan nomination and confirmation process with actually serving as a justice. Take for instance John Roberts, who has regularly infuriated conservatives through his opinions. The initial process is how you get there. Once you are there you are free to rule as you see fit, as it should be.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      I think you are confusing the obviously partisan nomination and confirmation process with actually serving as a justice. Take for instance John Roberts, who has regularly infuriated conservatives through his opinions. The initial process is how you get there. Once you are there you are free to rule as you see fit, as it should be.

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      @Mik said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

                      I think you are confusing the obviously partisan nomination and confirmation process with actually serving as a justice. Take for instance John Roberts, who has regularly infuriated conservatives through his opinions. The initial process is how you get there. Once you are there you are free to rule as you see fit, as it should be.

                      I'm watching the actual process, where the three progressive judges toed the culture war line. I am sure they all believe they are doing their jobs as free thinking individuals. That doesn't make them less predictable.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
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                        Perhaps. But that does not obligate them to retire when there is a Democrat in the White House.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Perhaps. But that does not obligate them to retire when there is a Democrat in the White House.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @Mik said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

                          Perhaps. But that does not obligate them to retire when there is a Democrat in the White House.

                          No, being a moderately selfless person is never about following enforced obligations. All she needed to be was moderately selfless, and she could have made the obviously pro-social choice, from her perspective.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
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                            But see, you are still looking at it from your perspective. Hers may have been very different.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              But see, you are still looking at it from your perspective. Hers may have been very different.

                              HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
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                              @Mik said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

                              But see, you are still looking at it from your perspective. Hers may have been very different.

                              “From her perspective” was in my post. I get that she may have had reasons. Those reasons have not been articulated. I am comfortable with my opinion that her decision not to retire, when she was already long past her expiration date, was self interest over public interest.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • MikM Away
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                                Mik
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                                As am I with mine. 😁

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  As am I with mine. 😁

                                  HoraceH Offline
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                                  Horace
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                                  @Mik said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

                                  As am I with mine. 😁

                                  We agree then. 🙂

                                  I've listened to a few conversations among liberal followers of the court, and they are disappointed that she did not retire. At those moments in the conversation, the subject quickly changes. Those would be good times to bring up reasons that would convince everybody that she was doing what she thought was for the best, for the country. But those possible reasons are never mentioned. Probably because there are no reasons that seem plausible.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    George K
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                                    https://www.wsj.com/articles/fix-the-court-should-fix-itself-788170d8?mod=e2two

                                    ‘Fix the Court’ Should Fix Itself

                                    It would be nice if the progressives attacking Supreme Court Justices for alleged ethical lapses practiced what that they preach. Consider the outfit Fix the Court, which is working with Democrats to pass ethics and disclosure rules for Justices while ignoring a requirement to disclose its own lobbying.

                                    Fix the Court is leading the campaign targeting Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito for the supposed offense of associating with billionaires. The nonprofit is an offshoot of the New Venture Fund, which is among a web of progressive groups backed by the left-wing for-profit Arabella Advisors.

                                    “We’re the only group in the nation working to open up the most powerful, least accountable part of government—the Supreme Court—by advocating for a few simple ‘fixes,’” Fix the Court’s website says. By “fix,” it means diminish conservative influence on the Court.

                                    One such fix is Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse’s Supreme Court Ethics, Recusal, and Transparency Act. Last month Fix the Court executive director Gabe Roth appeared on Mr. Whitehouse’s podcast to “discuss ways to strengthen ethical guardrails at the Court” via legislation.

                                    Yet Fix the Court hasn’t followed the disclosure rules it is supposed to adhere to, as the Washington Examiner recently reported. As a 501(c)(3) public charity, the outfit can shield the names of its donors. Donations are also tax deductible. But charities must abide by limits on political activities.

                                    The Internal Revenue Service website states that “no organization may qualify for section 501(c)(3) status if a substantial part of its activities is attempting to influence legislation (commonly known as lobbying),” which includes urging “the public to contact, members or employees of a legislative body” and advocating “the adoption or rejection of legislation.” The IRS defines a “substantial part” as more than 20% of spending.

                                    Charities are required to disclose whether they engage in political lobbying on their tax return Form 990. Fix the Court claimed it didn’t lobby on its 2022 public disclosure. Yet its website includes a long list of judicial bills that it has supported or opposed.

                                    It also says it’s working with Members “in the 118th Congress to urge the judiciary to adopt the same exacting travel, gift and personal hospitality rules that members of Congress and top executive branch officials must follow” and that it supports Congress using its statutory authority “to compel acceptance of the [ethics] code.” This sure looks like political lobbying under the IRS definition.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      At one point in time, the U.S. knew what the menace of socialism and communism meant. Somehow, with the passage of the Great Society programs, we've let the camel inch his way into the tent. The camel keeps promising security, if only we give up just a bit more freedom.

                                      I think we need to take a very hard look at political donations. I understand money is speech, but megaphones must have some semblance of equality.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23932836-clarence-thomas-2022-financial-disclosure

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                                          Jolly
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                                          And in other news, over 100 of his old clerks wrote a testimonial letter for him.

                                          Don't eat the Democrat cheese...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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