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Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?

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  • D Doctor Phibes
    9 Apr 2023, 19:31

    @jon-nyc said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

    @Doctor-Phibes you wanna field this one?

    I suspect I'd be wasting my time. It's no often that I know I'm right, but I do here.

    Judges should pay for their own holidays.

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 19:40 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes

    I was thinking you might want to address the fine distinction between source consideration and messenger shooting.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 19:59 last edited by
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      Or, we could discuss the closet liberal, who wouldn't have had any problems with anything Ginsburg ever did.

      Face it, lad, you can put all the lace around it you wish, but at the end of the day, Washington is about perception and power. If the pols or judges are doing what you perceive to be good for the country, you probably don't care if the person wears a goat mask to the weekly orgies.

      I think Thomas primarily rules on original intent, and I think he tries to adhere to the Constitution. I don't think the Wise Latina does.

      So yes, I'd have more problem with her behavior than his. But...it's Washington. They're ALL crooked, to one extent or the other. And if Thomas could make a phone call and help your foundation immensely or give you a favorable ruling from the bench concerning same, you'd love the man until the end of time.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • J Jolly
        9 Apr 2023, 19:59

        Or, we could discuss the closet liberal, who wouldn't have had any problems with anything Ginsburg ever did.

        Face it, lad, you can put all the lace around it you wish, but at the end of the day, Washington is about perception and power. If the pols or judges are doing what you perceive to be good for the country, you probably don't care if the person wears a goat mask to the weekly orgies.

        I think Thomas primarily rules on original intent, and I think he tries to adhere to the Constitution. I don't think the Wise Latina does.

        So yes, I'd have more problem with her behavior than his. But...it's Washington. They're ALL crooked, to one extent or the other. And if Thomas could make a phone call and help your foundation immensely or give you a favorable ruling from the bench concerning same, you'd love the man until the end of time.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 21:40 last edited by
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        @Jolly basically you’re saying he’s a crook but at least he’s your crook?

        I was only joking

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        • J jon-nyc
          9 Apr 2023, 19:40

          @Doctor-Phibes

          I was thinking you might want to address the fine distinction between source consideration and messenger shooting.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 21:56 last edited by Doctor Phibes 4 Sept 2023, 21:56
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          @jon-nyc said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

          @Doctor-Phibes

          I was thinking you might want to address the fine distinction between source consideration and messenger shooting.

          Horace has already set me straight on that point. Apparently it’s completely different when I do it as I’m driven by emotion. Conservatives can’t be driven by emotions as they don’t have any.

          I was only joking

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          • D Doctor Phibes
            9 Apr 2023, 21:56

            @jon-nyc said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

            @Doctor-Phibes

            I was thinking you might want to address the fine distinction between source consideration and messenger shooting.

            Horace has already set me straight on that point. Apparently it’s completely different when I do it as I’m driven by emotion. Conservatives can’t be driven by emotions as they don’t have any.

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            Horace
            wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 22:49 last edited by
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            @Doctor-Phibes said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

            @jon-nyc said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

            @Doctor-Phibes

            I was thinking you might want to address the fine distinction between source consideration and messenger shooting.

            Horace has already set me straight on that point. Apparently it’s completely different when I do it as I’m driven by emotion.

            I considered you to be someone who would be sympathetic to consideration of sources, that's all.

            Conservatives can’t be driven by emotions as they don’t have any.

            It's fine to have emotions and even to be ruled by them to whatever extent you'd like. Those of us incapable of any depth of thought, have little else to form opinions on, in any case. The issue is when people's opinions are based on their emotional truths, and they impose those opinions on others, via the cultural ideas and politics we all have to live with.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              9 Apr 2023, 21:40

              @Jolly basically you’re saying he’s a crook but at least he’s your crook?

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              Jolly
              wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 22:57 last edited by
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              @Doctor-Phibes said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

              @Jolly basically you’re saying he’s a crook but at least he’s your crook?

              I'm saying several things:

              1. Nobody has come up with anything (and I assure you, they're like a cat that drank a bottle of laxitive and is digging holes for shit as fast as he can) that shows where this has affected any of Thomas' votes or rulings.
              2. Rich people have rich friends.
              3. Crooks? Not necessarily. Compromised? Every one of them, to one extent or another. It's politics. It's how the game is played in the big leagues. And shucks, sometimes they are crooks. I voted for Edwin Edwards twice. A man who gleefully admitted he was a crook, but he stole for the good people of Louisiana.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Mik
                wrote on 10 Apr 2023, 02:49 last edited by
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                Who says one trip was worth $500k? How is that even possible?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • M Mik
                  10 Apr 2023, 02:49

                  Who says one trip was worth $500k? How is that even possible?

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 10 Apr 2023, 02:50 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

                  Who says one trip was worth $500k? How is that even possible?

                  You've clearly never partied with insurance professionals.

                  I was only joking

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    10 Apr 2023, 02:50

                    @Mik said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

                    Who says one trip was worth $500k? How is that even possible?

                    You've clearly never partied with insurance professionals.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 10 Apr 2023, 02:52 last edited by
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                    @Doctor-Phibes au contraire mon frer!

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      10 Apr 2023, 02:52

                      @Doctor-Phibes au contraire mon frer!

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 10 Apr 2023, 02:59 last edited by Doctor Phibes 4 Oct 2023, 03:00
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                      @Mik said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

                      @Doctor-Phibes au contraire mon frer!

                      Did they do a risk analysis of your seating arrangement? I thought not.

                      Trust me, the guys you went out with would be insurance amateurs. The very fact that they'd party with you is evidence enough. I've spent time with insurance professionals. After an hour, death cannot come soon enough, hence the expense report.

                      I was only joking

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 02:31 last edited by
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                        Two comments from myself

                        1. As George said, he should know better. If he is such a good legal mind, it should be pretty obvious that you should not do this.

                        2. As a human being, it would seem kind of "diminishing" (not sure if that is the right word) to your own self esteem as a human to keep accepting free trips from a friend. To me, (and I think to most of us here), it would bother me as a person if I kept getting free stuff from a friend. Sure, I have stayed at a friends place. But if they kept offering it year after year after year, paying my airfare, meals, etc. ummmmm a big NO to that.

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                        • T taiwan_girl
                          12 Apr 2023, 02:31

                          Two comments from myself

                          1. As George said, he should know better. If he is such a good legal mind, it should be pretty obvious that you should not do this.

                          2. As a human being, it would seem kind of "diminishing" (not sure if that is the right word) to your own self esteem as a human to keep accepting free trips from a friend. To me, (and I think to most of us here), it would bother me as a person if I kept getting free stuff from a friend. Sure, I have stayed at a friends place. But if they kept offering it year after year after year, paying my airfare, meals, etc. ummmmm a big NO to that.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 02:35 last edited by
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                          @taiwan_girl said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

                          Two comments from myself

                          1. As George said, he should know better. If he is such a good legal mind, it should be pretty obvious that you should not do this.

                          2. As a human being, it would seem kind of "diminishing" (not sure if that is the right word) to your own self esteem as a human to keep accepting free trips from a friend. To me, (and I think to most of us here), it would bother me as a person if I kept getting free stuff from a friend. Sure, I have stayed at a friends place. But if they kept offering it year after year after year, paying my airfare, meals, etc. ummmmm a big NO to that.

                          Accepting charity feels like a diminishment of status. But accepting rewards feels like an enhancement of status. This does not feel like charity to Thomas, I guess. I guess it feels like belonging to a high status club.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 02:44 last edited by
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                            Reality check.

                            Under the law, Thomas did nothing wrong. It may be bad optics, but I suspect he doesn't care.

                            And since he's appointed for life, ain't a damn thing, you, me or anybody else can do about it.

                            It's a tempest in a teapot story for the 24-hr news cycle, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing except the Left is pissed at SCOTUS.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 02:47 last edited by
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                              Exactly. Another attempt at lynching him.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 02:50 last edited by
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                                I "get" that technically he may have not done anything wrong.

                                But geez, for a smart person, he was pretty dumb about this. I just cant imagine how he thought this would be okay. I guess it is a bit like a lot of high powered people. Doing questionable things becomes normal. They loose touch with reality.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 02:51 last edited by
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                                  Don't drink the Kool-Aid.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • T taiwan_girl
                                    12 Apr 2023, 02:50

                                    I "get" that technically he may have not done anything wrong.

                                    But geez, for a smart person, he was pretty dumb about this. I just cant imagine how he thought this would be okay. I guess it is a bit like a lot of high powered people. Doing questionable things becomes normal. They loose touch with reality.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 03:17 last edited by
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                                    @taiwan_girl said in Did Clarence Thomas Do anything Wrong?:

                                    I "get" that technically he may have not done anything wrong.

                                    But geez, for a smart person, he was pretty dumb about this. I just cant imagine how he thought this would be okay. I guess it is a bit like a lot of high powered people. Doing questionable things becomes normal. They loose touch with reality.

                                    It was ok for many years until the powers that be decided to make you think it wasn’t ok.

                                    You are now thinking as you are intended to think.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 04:18 last edited by
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                                      Has Justice Thomas or his rich friend Mr. Crow dispute the facts reported by ProPublica?

                                      Should Justice Thomas recuse himself from cases that materially affect the fortune of Mr. Crow's business if any such case were to make its way to the Supreme Court in the future?

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 04:46 last edited by
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                                        1. No.
                                        2. Possibly

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 12:25 last edited by
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                                          Pretty simple...

                                          https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/the-smearing-of-justice-clarence-thomas-part-x

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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