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Mitt Romney calls new bike lanes 'the height of stupidity' as bicyclists press Congress to make roads safer and e-bikes cheaper

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    Mik
    wrote on 3 Apr 2023, 17:47 last edited by Mik 4 Mar 2023, 17:48
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    I have to agree with him. Narrowing roadways to widen bike lanes makes little sense as does subsidizing ebikes.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mitt-romney-calls-new-bike-lanes-the-height-of-stupidity-as-bicyclists-press-congress-to-make-roads-safer-and-e-bikes-cheaper/ar-AA19pS7A?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=10c4fb378c824e758c1c58efae489c35&ei=32

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 3 Apr 2023, 17:54 last edited by jon-nyc 4 Mar 2023, 17:54
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      It’s like any case of competing interests for a scarce resource in a zero-sum situation. And to a large extent where you stand is determined by where you sit - on a bike or in a car.

      I think e-bikes are going to enable bike commuting in a much bigger way than we’ve seen with regular bikes because you don’t need to be that strong a biker and you don’t need to get sweaty. But for that to work there need to be bike lanes.

      I think the key balance is put them in enough places to make commuting possible and not feel the need to put them everywhere.

      NYC has a couple of avenues where they’ve made nice lanes, but most avenues are untouched.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Mik
        wrote on 3 Apr 2023, 18:01 last edited by
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        I'm all for reasonable bike lanes. They have them in most places. Even before them I felt comfortable riding pretty much anywhere in the Cincinnati area.

        But removing car lanes for bike lanes? Not practical and no, ebikes shouldn't be subsidized.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Copper
          wrote on 3 Apr 2023, 21:33 last edited by
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          I don't like bike owners on a road they didn't pay for.

          But, bike owners might be in a better position once we are 100% EVs.

          Roads are paid for by gasoline taxes, no more gasoline means no more gasoline tax.

          So there will have to be some other source.

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          • C Copper
            3 Apr 2023, 21:33

            I don't like bike owners on a road they didn't pay for.

            But, bike owners might be in a better position once we are 100% EVs.

            Roads are paid for by gasoline taxes, no more gasoline means no more gasoline tax.

            So there will have to be some other source.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 3 Apr 2023, 21:39 last edited by
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            @Copper said in Mitt Romney calls new bike lanes 'the height of stupidity' as bicyclists press Congress to make roads safer and e-bikes cheaper:

            I don't like bike owners on a road they didn't pay for.

            This isn't Denmark. The vast majority of cyclists are also car owners. You have no idea what you're talking about.

            Please love yourself.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 3 Apr 2023, 22:11 last edited by
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              Nope, in America I'm afraid the silver-haired, little old lady would run over you and bicycle, too.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                3 Apr 2023, 22:11

                Nope, in America I'm afraid the silver-haired, little old lady would run over you and bicycle, too.

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 3 Apr 2023, 22:34 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in Mitt Romney calls new bike lanes 'the height of stupidity' as bicyclists press Congress to make roads safer and e-bikes cheaper:

                Nope, in America I'm afraid the silver-haired, little old lady would run over you and bicycle, too.

                Which is why following traffic laws on a bicycle can be stupid.

                Speaking of stupid, ditto this binary thinking about ebikes. In some places they make more sense than a car in Every. Single. Use. Case. In others they'd be an abomination. So no, I'm not in favor of a blanket tax break, that's ridiculous.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 4 Apr 2023, 00:05 last edited by
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                  I’m all for e bikes. Will probably get one eventually. I just don’t want to buy other people’s.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    3 Apr 2023, 21:39

                    @Copper said in Mitt Romney calls new bike lanes 'the height of stupidity' as bicyclists press Congress to make roads safer and e-bikes cheaper:

                    I don't like bike owners on a road they didn't pay for.

                    This isn't Denmark. The vast majority of cyclists are also car owners. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 4 Apr 2023, 00:12 last edited by Copper 4 Apr 2023, 00:13
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Mitt Romney calls new bike lanes 'the height of stupidity' as bicyclists press Congress to make roads safer and e-bikes cheaper:

                    The vast majority of cyclists are also car owners.

                    When they are driving the car
                    not while riding the bike.

                    Car drivers get roads because they pay for them.

                    Bike riders think they should get roads because they whine.

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                    • C Copper
                      4 Apr 2023, 00:12

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Mitt Romney calls new bike lanes 'the height of stupidity' as bicyclists press Congress to make roads safer and e-bikes cheaper:

                      The vast majority of cyclists are also car owners.

                      When they are driving the car
                      not while riding the bike.

                      Car drivers get roads because they pay for them.

                      Bike riders think they should get roads because they whine.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 4 Apr 2023, 00:23 last edited by
                      #10

                      @Copper said in Mitt Romney calls new bike lanes 'the height of stupidity' as bicyclists press Congress to make roads safer and e-bikes cheaper:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Mitt Romney calls new bike lanes 'the height of stupidity' as bicyclists press Congress to make roads safer and e-bikes cheaper:

                      The vast majority of cyclists are also car owners.

                      When they are driving the car
                      not while riding the bike.

                      Car drivers get roads because they pay for them.

                      Bike riders think they should get roads because they whine.

                      Stellar argument.

                      Please love yourself.

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