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"Ladies and Gentlemen"

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    "What do you mean, 'microagression'?"

    Superintendent finalist Vito Perrone said Friday that the School Committee rescinded its offer to hire him in executive session Thursday night, alleging that the reason was a perceived microaggression contained in an email he sent to the committee chairperson.

    Perrone and the committee entered contract negotiations this week after he was offered the position the morning of March 24.

    After reviewing the contract, Perrone made three requests in an email to Chairperson Cynthia Kwiecinski and Suzanne Colby, executive assistant to the committee.

    According to the email, obtained by the Gazette, he requested that the annual salary for fiscal years 2025 and 2026 be negotiated and not be less than the cost of living adjustment of 3% for both years, and an additional four vacation days each year. Perrone also requested 40 sick days for his first year of employment as a superintendent and 18 days each contract year after, citing that he had accrued a reasonable amount of sick days during his previous six years working in the district.

    What he claims came under fire is his addressing Kwiecinski and Colby as “ladies” at the beginning of the email. According to Perrone, Kwiecinski said that using “ladies” was a microaggression and “the fact that he didn’t know that as an educator was a problem,” he said.

    “I was shocked,” he said. “I grew up in a time when ‘ladies’ and ‘gentlemen’ was a sign of respect. I didn’t intend to insult anyone.”

    Is there more to the story?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      "What do you mean, 'microagression'?"

      Superintendent finalist Vito Perrone said Friday that the School Committee rescinded its offer to hire him in executive session Thursday night, alleging that the reason was a perceived microaggression contained in an email he sent to the committee chairperson.

      Perrone and the committee entered contract negotiations this week after he was offered the position the morning of March 24.

      After reviewing the contract, Perrone made three requests in an email to Chairperson Cynthia Kwiecinski and Suzanne Colby, executive assistant to the committee.

      According to the email, obtained by the Gazette, he requested that the annual salary for fiscal years 2025 and 2026 be negotiated and not be less than the cost of living adjustment of 3% for both years, and an additional four vacation days each year. Perrone also requested 40 sick days for his first year of employment as a superintendent and 18 days each contract year after, citing that he had accrued a reasonable amount of sick days during his previous six years working in the district.

      What he claims came under fire is his addressing Kwiecinski and Colby as “ladies” at the beginning of the email. According to Perrone, Kwiecinski said that using “ladies” was a microaggression and “the fact that he didn’t know that as an educator was a problem,” he said.

      “I was shocked,” he said. “I grew up in a time when ‘ladies’ and ‘gentlemen’ was a sign of respect. I didn’t intend to insult anyone.”

      Is there more to the story?

      jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
      #2

      @George-K said in "Ladies and Gentlemen":

      Is there more to the story?

      Yes. Kwiecinski and Colby are cunts, which somehow goes unmentioned.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @George-K said in "Ladies and Gentlemen":

        Is there more to the story?

        Yes. Kwiecinski and Colby are cunts, which somehow goes unmentioned.

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        George K
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        @jon-nyc said in "Ladies and Gentlemen":

        @George-K said in "Ladies and Gentlemen":

        Is there more to the story?

        Yes. Kwiecinski and Colby are cunts, which somehow goes unmentioned.

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @George-K said in "Ladies and Gentlemen":

          Is there more to the story?

          Yes. Kwiecinski and Colby are cunts, which somehow goes unmentioned.

          Catseye3C Offline
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          Catseye3
          wrote on last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in "Ladies and Gentlemen":

          Kwiecinski and Colby are cunts,

          Yes.

          At the risk of being Capt Obvious, at least he discovered this before he signed on.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            Not that I see it as a firing office. I am under the impression that the English speaking business world has largely stopped using "ladies" in formal correspondence for three decades, if not longer. "Sirs" and "Madams" are still used, but not "ladies."

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              Not that I see it as a firing office. I am under the impression that the English speaking business world has largely stopped using "ladies" in formal correspondence for three decades, if not longer. "Sirs" and "Madams" are still used, but not "ladies."

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              Jolly
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              I still use the term "ladies". If they don't like it, I can happily call them assholes.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                I sometimes refer to my engineers as 'ladies'.

                Admittedly, this is a deliberate macro-aggression.

                I was only joking

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  I still use the term "ladies". If they don't like it, I can happily call them assholes.

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                  Axtremus
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                  @Jolly said in "Ladies and Gentlemen":

                  I still use the term "ladies".

                  As a salutation in formal correspondence?

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                      So is Doctor Jill the first woman?

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